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Are they deployed into any cities where they are not actively mapping?

• ra7 2y ago
  They test in many cities (Buffalo, Tahoe, Bellevue, NYC) . But they won't deploy to any cities which they haven't mapped because they consider it critical to safety.
  • lopkeny12ko 2y ago
    > But they won't deploy to any cities which they haven't mapped And therein lies the fundamental flaw with Waymo's approach...
    • ra7 2y ago
      It's not a flaw if that's what is required to make it work. So far only Waymo works at L4 autonomy, so they are vindicated.
    • UltraSane 2y ago
      As compared to what, Tesla's FSD that tries to crash the car every 20 miles or so?
  • infecto 2y ago
    So the answer is no and that's why I outline it as a potential con. They are unable to just drop deployment into a new city, they as a matter of history, map out the entire city and keep an active map of the driving territory. I have no idea who wins in this dog and pony show but I think its a valid potential con and a easy way to see some of the decision differences in companies.
  • AStonesThrow 2y ago
    Does Google Earth/Maps/StreetView not count as mapping? I was feeling certain that all that infrastructure and data was invested into Waymo. It would seem that Google had a huge advantage from running mapping/camera cars for years and years, before SDC were even a glimmer in their eyes.
    • rcxdude 2y ago
      The mapping that waymo uses is much more detailed than streetview, the biggest difference being that it includes lidar data. I wouldn't be surprised if they combined the two for some of their latest data updates, but the pre-existing streetview data is not obviously enough to give an advantage.