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Israel has similar artifacts, both of WW2 under the British Empire and of the subsequent austerity/rationing during the state's first decade. 1. During WW2 the
by azernik 2y ago
Israel has similar artifacts, both of WW2 under the British Empire and of the subsequent austerity/rationing during the state's first decade.
1. During WW2 the British established a ration of "standard bread" to eliminate wheat imports. This is still the price-controlled bread type, and led to the replacement of some pita consumption.
2. The austerity years coincided with (and were in large part caused by) a rapid doubling of the population by expellees from Arab countries. Lots of them were used to rice, but with food rationing and price controls were in place, rice would have been a strain on government finances. So the state pushed "Ben Gurion Rice", aka Israeli/pearl couscous, a good-enough substitute that could be made from cheap American wheat imports.
I'm sure there's more hiding under the surface, I just don't know all the history.
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- drc500free 2y agoSadly, it's becoming apparent that the only reason people believe in The Holocaust is the massive effort that went into documenting and preserving the direct evidence. The exodus of Jews from Arab and Muslim countries doesn't have museums and isn't part of school curricula, so it's easier to deny. Hundreds of thousands of people, whether Palestinian, Jewish, Desi, or German, don't tend to move en masse without violence. People who hold a mental model of Israel as a White European Colonizer seem to simply reject the idea that it absorbed more than a half million fleeing Black & Brown Jews in its first decades of existence. If they even accept that 90% of the Jews in Arab countries suddenly left without their property and money, they insist that it was a voluntary move due to inherent Jewish disloyalty to their broader societies.
- cornercasechase 2y agoLike the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians ethnically cleansed from their homeland during Nakba (and now)?
- drc500free 2y agoHundreds of thousands of Palestinians didn't get up one day and move fifteen miles down the road because they all felt like going on a picnic at the same time. Interestingly, the term "ethnic cleansing" wasn't coined until the 1990s. The 20th century push for ethnic self determination came with an understanding that people would have to be moved to form concentrated and contiguous populations that could self determine. Millions of people were forced to move in the 1940s to establish India, Pakistan, and a more Slavic Soviet Union.
- bbqfog 2y agoYou're right hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were forced off their land by Zionists terrorists during Nakba, just like what's happening today in Gaza.
- jamroom 2y agoI had not seen this claim before, but upon checking it out it appears to be true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_... I'm guessing that is what they are talking about.
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- azernik 2y agoIt is true in every particular. The population of Israel approximately doubled from 1949 to 1965. It did so because of immigrants from places like Egypt, Iraq, and Yemen. The overwhelming majority of those immigrants were not voluntary, but were forced to leave by formal expulsion (Egypt, semi-formal in Iraq); revocation of citizenship (Algeria, Libya); massive official discrimination (eg Syria); or simple mob violence (Libya again, Tunisia, Morocco). In Egypt there was a wonderful trick of forcing expellees to sign papers saying their departure was "voluntary". In countries where only mob violence was involved (Morocco, Tunisia), some Jewish communities remained. Then there's the interesting Lebanese case, where the Jewish community thrived until targeted during the civil war. But yeah, don't pretend that the complete nonexistence of Jewish communities in Yemen or Iraq or Egypt happened by chance.
- cornercasechase 2y ago[flagged]
- azernik 2y agoFrom that article: "Telegrams between the Mossad agents in Baghdad and their superiors in Tel Aviv give the impression that neither group knew who was responsible for the attack." Also, "by 13 January 1951, nearly 86,000 Jews had already registered to immigrate, and 23,000 had already left for Israel". And anyway, the Iraqi government had already begun and, after the bombings, accelerated a program of expulsion. Unless you're going to disavow Nuri as-Said as a "Zionist", the actual causes are Iraqi state policy. (Pre-1948 Iraq was also, despite your insinuation, not exactly friendly to Jews. cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawud_Pasha_of_Baghdad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawud_Pasha_of_Baghdad.) Anyway, I'm done with this side tangent. Enjoy your fantasies about how 99% of Jews left Iraq and Egypt and Yemen, and 90% left Tunisia and Morocco, because of evil foreigners and the local Jews' disloyalty.
- bbqfog 2y agoYou conveniently left this out of your quote: > The theory that "certain Jews" carried out the attacks "in order to focus the attention of the Israel Government on the plight of the Jews" was viewed as "more plausible than most" by the British Foreign Office