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Slovakia is probably one of the worst countries in the EU in terms of opportunities, maybe just getting out of that specific place might help you? Czechia is ri

by piva00 2y ago

Slovakia is probably one of the worst countries in the EU in terms of opportunities, maybe just getting out of that specific place might help you? Czechia is right around the corner, Poland as well, and they fare better than Slovakia in pretty much every way. Edit: > "Portuguese, Indians, Brazilians are on my no-hire list. They have corruption and cronyism embedded in their DNA." Ah, just noticed you were the user who posted this stupidity some weeks ago, thought the name was familiar because this comment really showed some true colours. Please, pack your shit and get moving to Russia to stay away from the hellhole :)

lm28469 2y ago
It's also one of the EU countries with the least debt to gdp, still has industries, good agriculture, 90%+ of home ownership, &c. France and Germany are in much deeper shit compared to Slovakia, look at property tax, tax on land, income tax, Slovakia is almost a tax heaven in comparison
aspenmayer 2y ago
I think you could have toned down the rhetoric a bit, but I do agree that the comments you mentioned aren't great, and did add context to the comment you replied to. You're not wrong, though. Slovakia is at or near the bottom of EU average wages iirc.
- piva00 2y ago
  > I think you could have toned down the rhetoric a bit, but I do agree that the comments you mentioned aren't great, and did add context to the comment you replied to. I understand your point but personally I simply cannot accept such xenophobic stupidity, if someone spouts that in public they need to be publicly shamed for it. Unfortunately there are many safe places for this kind of abhorrent behaviour on the internet, I believe this forum shouldn't be one of them.
  - aspenmayer 2y ago
    I agree with you that xenophobia and racism have no place here. However, we have to endeavor to exercise good faith. Sometimes it's enough to simply let another's words speak for themselves, and by quoting alone, you have done the community a boon. The site isn't for public shaming, it's for thoughtful discussion. I would rather show respect for others by my response and hope to have a real human interaction that can show someone my true colors rather than tell someone else who or what they are or aren't. I guess I care about people, even if I don't like their behavior or speech, because I want to understand them and their experiences. People make sweeping statements or unfair generalizations, and that's an opportunity to ask people how they came to believe or say such things. Sometimes, people don't even have specific things they can point to, and they may be more amenable to reason than you realize. It just takes willingness to meet people where they are, not where we'd rather they be.
    - piva00 2y ago
      Great points, I will do my best to internalise them because it does resonate.
      - aspenmayer 2y ago
        Thank you for being here. If I have done anything, it is by learning from others. "Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that." Strength to Love, 1963. "If we are to have peace on earth, our loyalties must become ecumenical rather than sectional. Our loyalties must transcend our race, our tribe, our class, and our nation; and this means we must develop a world perspective." Christmas sermon, Atlanta, Georgia, 1967. https://www.nps.gov/mlkm/learn/quotations.htm https://www.nps.gov/mlkm/learn/quotations.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr.
        eqvinox 2y ago
        I don't think I've ever seen an interaction of this kind of as smoothly, kudos to both of you, and I'm trying to learn from it too :)
aspenmayer 2y ago
I wasn’t able to find where they said what you quoted.
- piva00 2y ago
  It's flagged/dead, you gotta enable to show flagged/dead comments on your HN profile.
  - aspenmayer 2y ago
    I searched for it on algolia. Link?
    - piva00 2y ago
      Surely, here you go: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41786266 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41786266
      - aspenmayer 2y ago
        Thanks for the citation. That comment is truly bizarre. I wonder why algolia didn't turn it up? I can only assume it doesn't index flagged and/or dead comments?

by piva00 2y ago

lm28469 2y ago

It's also one of the EU countries with the least debt to gdp, still has industries, good agriculture, 90%+ of home ownership, &c. France and Germany are in much deeper shit compared to Slovakia, look at property tax, tax on land, income tax, Slovakia is almost a tax heaven in comparison

aspenmayer 2y ago

I think you could have toned down the rhetoric a bit, but I do agree that the comments you mentioned aren't great, and did add context to the comment you replied to. You're not wrong, though. Slovakia is at or near the bottom of EU average wages iirc.

piva00 2y ago
> I think you could have toned down the rhetoric a bit, but I do agree that the comments you mentioned aren't great, and did add context to the comment you replied to. I understand your point but personally I simply cannot accept such xenophobic stupidity, if someone spouts that in public they need to be publicly shamed for it. Unfortunately there are many safe places for this kind of abhorrent behaviour on the internet, I believe this forum shouldn't be one of them.
- aspenmayer 2y ago
  I agree with you that xenophobia and racism have no place here. However, we have to endeavor to exercise good faith. Sometimes it's enough to simply let another's words speak for themselves, and by quoting alone, you have done the community a boon. The site isn't for public shaming, it's for thoughtful discussion. I would rather show respect for others by my response and hope to have a real human interaction that can show someone my true colors rather than tell someone else who or what they are or aren't. I guess I care about people, even if I don't like their behavior or speech, because I want to understand them and their experiences. People make sweeping statements or unfair generalizations, and that's an opportunity to ask people how they came to believe or say such things. Sometimes, people don't even have specific things they can point to, and they may be more amenable to reason than you realize. It just takes willingness to meet people where they are, not where we'd rather they be.
  - piva00 2y ago
    Great points, I will do my best to internalise them because it does resonate.
    - aspenmayer 2y ago
      Thank you for being here. If I have done anything, it is by learning from others. "Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that." Strength to Love, 1963. "If we are to have peace on earth, our loyalties must become ecumenical rather than sectional. Our loyalties must transcend our race, our tribe, our class, and our nation; and this means we must develop a world perspective." Christmas sermon, Atlanta, Georgia, 1967. https://www.nps.gov/mlkm/learn/quotations.htm https://www.nps.gov/mlkm/learn/quotations.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr.
      - eqvinox 2y ago
        I don't think I've ever seen an interaction of this kind of as smoothly, kudos to both of you, and I'm trying to learn from it too :)

aspenmayer 2y ago

I wasn’t able to find where they said what you quoted.

piva00 2y ago
It's flagged/dead, you gotta enable to show flagged/dead comments on your HN profile.
- aspenmayer 2y ago
  I searched for it on algolia. Link?
  - piva00 2y ago
    Surely, here you go: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41786266 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41786266
    - aspenmayer 2y ago
      Thanks for the citation. That comment is truly bizarre. I wonder why algolia didn't turn it up? I can only assume it doesn't index flagged and/or dead comments?