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I still have the i3 to sway switch in front of me. Screen sharing is a daily must in my work, so at least somewhat in the past there were too many warning voice

I still have the i3 to sway switch in front of me. Screen sharing is a daily must in my work, so at least somewhat in the past there were too many warning voices. Fedora has a sway spin. I wonder whether that "just works" (TM).

kaba0 2y ago
Screen sharing has been working fine for years now. Chromium-based browsers and firefox all “just works”, that is every electron-based app as well. Sometimes the latter may use a too old version of electron, but it’s just a website either way, or you can just update its dependency.
- usr1106 2y ago
  Was that a comment particularly to the Fedora sway spin or generally to some carefully crafted setup?
  - kaba0 2y ago
    Completely ordinary setup, as is, both arch and nixos.
- goosedragons 2y ago
  That hasn't been my experience. Last time I tried Wayland earlier this year it was a 50:50 chance screen sharing worked. I just gave up on it. X11 works. And I'm still pissed we went from centralized settings that work across WMs to completely different settings in every WM, with no guarantee what you want is even implemented. A bit less screen tearing (which I haven't noticed in X11 in years) and supposed security benefits don't seem worth it. I hope Wayland doesn't stick around and it's successor is actually thought out and reasoned about real world use cases and cooperation.
getwiththeprog 2y ago
Fedora net install minimal with Sway pulled in is great, and I can't see why Fedora Sway spin would be any worse. It just works, with extra config optional.
saurik 2y ago
I mean, every day you don't get around to switching just makes switching easier, as Wayland will (presumably) get better over time, so until X actively isn't meeting your needs anymore (which is unlikely to happen randomly either: it will correlate with something you have some control over the timing of) there isn't much reason to worry about even considering a switch.
- djvuvtgcuehb 2y ago
  This me. Why switch? X works just fine for me. I don't want to learn Wayland or any of its quirks until I have to. I've already seen how lacking it is in terms of input control. I'm sure it's better since I looked a few years ago, but really who cares. Until I have to switch, why would I?
- hulitu 2y ago
  > as Wayland will (presumably) get better over time That's what they say all the time. At the moment it seems it has yet to be close to X while bringing nothing new.

kaba0 2y ago

Screen sharing has been working fine for years now. Chromium-based browsers and firefox all “just works”, that is every electron-based app as well. Sometimes the latter may use a too old version of electron, but it’s just a website either way, or you can just update its dependency.

usr1106 2y ago
Was that a comment particularly to the Fedora sway spin or generally to some carefully crafted setup?
- kaba0 2y ago
  Completely ordinary setup, as is, both arch and nixos.
goosedragons 2y ago
That hasn't been my experience. Last time I tried Wayland earlier this year it was a 50:50 chance screen sharing worked. I just gave up on it. X11 works. And I'm still pissed we went from centralized settings that work across WMs to completely different settings in every WM, with no guarantee what you want is even implemented. A bit less screen tearing (which I haven't noticed in X11 in years) and supposed security benefits don't seem worth it. I hope Wayland doesn't stick around and it's successor is actually thought out and reasoned about real world use cases and cooperation.

getwiththeprog 2y ago

Fedora net install minimal with Sway pulled in is great, and I can't see why Fedora Sway spin would be any worse. It just works, with extra config optional.

saurik 2y ago

I mean, every day you don't get around to switching just makes switching easier, as Wayland will (presumably) get better over time, so until X actively isn't meeting your needs anymore (which is unlikely to happen randomly either: it will correlate with something you have some control over the timing of) there isn't much reason to worry about even considering a switch.

djvuvtgcuehb 2y ago
This me. Why switch? X works just fine for me. I don't want to learn Wayland or any of its quirks until I have to. I've already seen how lacking it is in terms of input control. I'm sure it's better since I looked a few years ago, but really who cares. Until I have to switch, why would I?
hulitu 2y ago
> as Wayland will (presumably) get better over time That's what they say all the time. At the moment it seems it has yet to be close to X while bringing nothing new.