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Ah yes, also pedals in case you run out of battery. And a tullock spike so you drive safely. The only reason Tesla succeeded is by making sexy car. Sure we ar

Ah yes, also pedals in case you run out of battery. And a tullock spike so you drive safely. The only reason Tesla succeeded is by making sexy car. Sure we are at the cost point where you can making boring EV. It would cost almost the same and only appeal to 1% of market.

neuroelectron 2y ago
So basically an electric bike?
TacticalCoder 2y ago
> The only reason Tesla succeeded is by making sexy car. I don't think so. They succeeded because the batteries made by Tesla seems incredibly good. A Model S owner I know swapped his batteries after... 280 000 km (175 000 miles). They seem to live long and have better mileage. But neither the Model 3 nor the model Y nor the model X are "sexy": they just have a weird shape. Although I'll grant you the Model S is good looking. To me the german, Porsche and Mercedes for example, make way better looking EV cars than Tesla and with much better interiors. But inferior batteries.
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  They succeeded by making an electric car that looked like a normal car not a glorified golf cart or a cartoon car. Secondly they had decent/usable range for many use cases, and they had good performance.
- dreamcompiler 2y ago
  I don't know whether Tesla batteries are actually better than average. What Tesla absolutely does better than average is their battery management system. Tesla does an exquisite job of keeping their batteries at the optimal temperature and never overcharging them or charging them too fast. Any lithium battery -- even a bad one -- will last much longer with a great BMS.
delfinom 2y ago
The people buying Teslas must have a absolutely odd definition of sexy. I put them at a 4/10 at best. Shit I put my daily driver Civic at 6/10 because the driver cockpit is phenomenal and has a significant amount of attention to detail for a cheap car, but I have driven many high end 6-figure cars as well.
- dreamcompiler 2y ago
  My Model Y accelerates from 0-60 in 4.4 seconds. That to me is sexy. Flooring the pedal in my car feels like being launched into orbit. And my car is among the slower models Tesla makes. Can your Civic do that? I'll answer for you: No it cannot. https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/honda-0-60-mph-times/ https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/honda-0-60-mph-ti... We all have different definitions of sexy.
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  Sexy tech and sexy performance. Buying car for it’s looks is super dumb. Admittedly i’m talking about first generation cars - roadster and S. Cars that decided Tesla’s fate.
  - olyjohn 2y ago
    Buying a car for straight line performance is what's dumb.
    - dzhiurgis 2y ago
      Less dumb than caring about exterior. I am the one using car - it’s better be comfortable and fit for purpose rather than meet someone’s elses expectations. I agree we should actually limit top speed and acceleration so people don’t use them as weapons so much. In a way - nerf and desex the cars.
      - ninetyninenine 2y ago
        Agreed. Sexy cars are used for showing status and attracting women to have sex with you. This is dumb because you can just have sex with your hand. Logically why even involve women? On this regard, you sir are a genius.
gambiting 2y ago
>>The only reason Tesla succeeded is by making sexy car. I literally don't know anyone who thinks Teslas look sexy - they are like bars of soap, nothing "sexy" about them. But I also know plenty of people who own them, because of their superior battery tech, crazy efficiency, and the supercharger network. I don't know anyone who bought a car because it's "sexy" maybe other than one friend of mine who bought an Alfa Romeo Gulia because it "looks cool" - the argument that it's just a rebranded Fiat Punto never really worked on her unfortunately.
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  Model S and Roadster are sexy enough - they are the cars that decided teslas fate. Mind you the competition at the time was only a Prius, which only last year became reasonably good looking. Model 3 and Y are worlds best selling cars. By definition they have to be boring.
- potato3732842 2y ago
  You're missing the point. EVs weren't really economically viable at the entry level. Tesla was the first company to figure out how to design, style and market an EV for higher end customers at price points where it could actually compete decently against ICEs both on paper and in actual ownership experience.
- badpun 2y ago
  I don't think Gulia and Punto have much in common. Did you mean a different car?
  - gambiting 2y ago
    Ah yes I meant the Alfa Romeo MiTo, sorry got this wrong.

neuroelectron 2y ago

So basically an electric bike?

TacticalCoder 2y ago

> The only reason Tesla succeeded is by making sexy car. I don't think so. They succeeded because the batteries made by Tesla seems incredibly good. A Model S owner I know swapped his batteries after... 280 000 km (175 000 miles). They seem to live long and have better mileage. But neither the Model 3 nor the model Y nor the model X are "sexy": they just have a weird shape. Although I'll grant you the Model S is good looking. To me the german, Porsche and Mercedes for example, make way better looking EV cars than Tesla and with much better interiors. But inferior batteries.

SoftTalker 2y ago
They succeeded by making an electric car that looked like a normal car not a glorified golf cart or a cartoon car. Secondly they had decent/usable range for many use cases, and they had good performance.
dreamcompiler 2y ago
I don't know whether Tesla batteries are actually better than average. What Tesla absolutely does better than average is their battery management system. Tesla does an exquisite job of keeping their batteries at the optimal temperature and never overcharging them or charging them too fast. Any lithium battery -- even a bad one -- will last much longer with a great BMS.

delfinom 2y ago

The people buying Teslas must have a absolutely odd definition of sexy. I put them at a 4/10 at best. Shit I put my daily driver Civic at 6/10 because the driver cockpit is phenomenal and has a significant amount of attention to detail for a cheap car, but I have driven many high end 6-figure cars as well.

dreamcompiler 2y ago
My Model Y accelerates from 0-60 in 4.4 seconds. That to me is sexy. Flooring the pedal in my car feels like being launched into orbit. And my car is among the slower models Tesla makes. Can your Civic do that? I'll answer for you: No it cannot. https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/honda-0-60-mph-times/ https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/honda-0-60-mph-ti... We all have different definitions of sexy.
dzhiurgis 2y ago
Sexy tech and sexy performance. Buying car for it’s looks is super dumb. Admittedly i’m talking about first generation cars - roadster and S. Cars that decided Tesla’s fate.
- olyjohn 2y ago
  Buying a car for straight line performance is what's dumb.
  - dzhiurgis 2y ago
    Less dumb than caring about exterior. I am the one using car - it’s better be comfortable and fit for purpose rather than meet someone’s elses expectations. I agree we should actually limit top speed and acceleration so people don’t use them as weapons so much. In a way - nerf and desex the cars.
    - ninetyninenine 2y ago
      Agreed. Sexy cars are used for showing status and attracting women to have sex with you. This is dumb because you can just have sex with your hand. Logically why even involve women? On this regard, you sir are a genius.

gambiting 2y ago

>>The only reason Tesla succeeded is by making sexy car. I literally don't know anyone who thinks Teslas look sexy - they are like bars of soap, nothing "sexy" about them. But I also know plenty of people who own them, because of their superior battery tech, crazy efficiency, and the supercharger network. I don't know anyone who bought a car because it's "sexy" maybe other than one friend of mine who bought an Alfa Romeo Gulia because it "looks cool" - the argument that it's just a rebranded Fiat Punto never really worked on her unfortunately.

dzhiurgis 2y ago
Model S and Roadster are sexy enough - they are the cars that decided teslas fate. Mind you the competition at the time was only a Prius, which only last year became reasonably good looking. Model 3 and Y are worlds best selling cars. By definition they have to be boring.
potato3732842 2y ago
You're missing the point. EVs weren't really economically viable at the entry level. Tesla was the first company to figure out how to design, style and market an EV for higher end customers at price points where it could actually compete decently against ICEs both on paper and in actual ownership experience.
badpun 2y ago
I don't think Gulia and Punto have much in common. Did you mean a different car?
- gambiting 2y ago
  Ah yes I meant the Alfa Romeo MiTo, sorry got this wrong.