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Another argument why 1177BC happened is the rise of Assyria. After the Hittites fought with Egypt at Kadesh they quickly made peace as they now feared Assyria m

Another argument why 1177BC happened is the rise of Assyria. After the Hittites fought with Egypt at Kadesh they quickly made peace as they now feared Assyria more. The Hittite vassals also rebelled and are believed to be the core group of “Sea Peoples” who would terrorize the Mediterranean. The Sea Peoples were not unlike the barbarians who would later threaten Rome. They brought their wives and children with them presumably to settle in new lands after the collapse of the Hittite New Kingdom. https://luwianstudies.org/the-initial-sea-peoples-raids/ https://luwianstudies.org/the-initial-sea-peoples-raids/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites#New_Kingdom https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites#New_Kingdom

pfdietz 2y ago
Assyria was knocked back on its heels by the collapse, shrinking down to a core. It only became dominant later on, in the form of the Neo-Assyrian Empire. By that time the Hittite Empire was long gone, although the Neo-Hittites were around.
- rawgabbit 2y ago
  When did Assyria collapse? Tiglath Pileser ruled over Middle Assyria at its zenith until his death at 1076BC. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiglath-Pileser_I https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiglath-Pileser_I
  - pfdietz 2y ago
    wikipedia says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria > Tukulti-Ninurta I's assassination c. 1207 BC was followed by inter-dynastic conflict and a significant drop in Assyrian power.[62] Tukulti-Ninurta I's successors were unable to maintain Assyrian power and Assyria became increasingly restricted to just the Assyrian heartland,[62] a period of decline broadly coinciding with the Late Bronze Age collapse.[62] Though some kings in this period of decline, such as Ashur-dan I (r. c. 1178–1133 BC), Ashur-resh-ishi I (r. 1132–1115 BC) and Tiglath-Pileser I (r. 1114–1076 BC) worked to reverse the decline and made significant conquests,[63] their conquests were ephemeral and shaky, quickly lost again.[64] From the time of Eriba-Adad II (r. 1056–1054 BC) onward, Assyrian decline intensified.[65]
    - rawgabbit 2y ago
      Middle Assyria was largely unaffected by the Sea Peoples or whatever led to the Bronze Age collapse. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Assyrian_Empire https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Assyrian_Empire >Though Assyria was left largely unscathed by the direct effects of the Late Bronze Age collapse of the 12th century BC, the Middle Assyrian Empire began to experience a significant period of decline roughly at the same time. The assassination of Tukulti-Ninurta I c. 1207 BC led to inter-dynastic conflict and a significant drop in Assyrian power. Even during its period of decline, Middle Assyrian kings continued to be assertive geopolitically; both Ashur-dan I (r. c. 1178–1133 BC) and Ashur-resh-ishi I (r. 1132–1115 BC) campaigned against Babylonia. Under Ashur-resh-ishi I's son and successor Tiglath-Pileser I (r. 1114–1076 BC), the Middle Assyrian Empire experienced a period of resurgence, owing to wide-ranging campaigns and conquests.

pfdietz 2y ago

Assyria was knocked back on its heels by the collapse, shrinking down to a core. It only became dominant later on, in the form of the Neo-Assyrian Empire. By that time the Hittite Empire was long gone, although the Neo-Hittites were around.

rawgabbit 2y ago
When did Assyria collapse? Tiglath Pileser ruled over Middle Assyria at its zenith until his death at 1076BC. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiglath-Pileser_I https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiglath-Pileser_I
- pfdietz 2y ago
  wikipedia says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria > Tukulti-Ninurta I's assassination c. 1207 BC was followed by inter-dynastic conflict and a significant drop in Assyrian power.[62] Tukulti-Ninurta I's successors were unable to maintain Assyrian power and Assyria became increasingly restricted to just the Assyrian heartland,[62] a period of decline broadly coinciding with the Late Bronze Age collapse.[62] Though some kings in this period of decline, such as Ashur-dan I (r. c. 1178–1133 BC), Ashur-resh-ishi I (r. 1132–1115 BC) and Tiglath-Pileser I (r. 1114–1076 BC) worked to reverse the decline and made significant conquests,[63] their conquests were ephemeral and shaky, quickly lost again.[64] From the time of Eriba-Adad II (r. 1056–1054 BC) onward, Assyrian decline intensified.[65]
  - rawgabbit 2y ago
    Middle Assyria was largely unaffected by the Sea Peoples or whatever led to the Bronze Age collapse. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Assyrian_Empire https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Assyrian_Empire >Though Assyria was left largely unscathed by the direct effects of the Late Bronze Age collapse of the 12th century BC, the Middle Assyrian Empire began to experience a significant period of decline roughly at the same time. The assassination of Tukulti-Ninurta I c. 1207 BC led to inter-dynastic conflict and a significant drop in Assyrian power. Even during its period of decline, Middle Assyrian kings continued to be assertive geopolitically; both Ashur-dan I (r. c. 1178–1133 BC) and Ashur-resh-ishi I (r. 1132–1115 BC) campaigned against Babylonia. Under Ashur-resh-ishi I's son and successor Tiglath-Pileser I (r. 1114–1076 BC), the Middle Assyrian Empire experienced a period of resurgence, owing to wide-ranging campaigns and conquests.