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I didn't "start yelling liar". I observed they were doing so, and provided evidence that their claims were lies.

by ffsm8 2y ago

pvg 2y ago
If I observe you are a dunderhead, it's still namecalling and an insult even if I believe the observation is factual. Lots of mod commentary about it (beside being the the site guidelines) https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20facts%20red%20herring&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
- ffsm8 2y ago
  Yes , what you're doing there is name-calling and a direct insult. You might note that I used a verb, not a noun. I literally described the action the person I was responding to took It's akin to saying "he's talking nonsense" when someone is just putting random syllables after each other. If that is insulting, than the fact he took the action is the insult, not my pointing it out.
  - pvg 2y ago
    That's not how insults work and it's definitely not how HN works. You can't start telling people you disagree with that they are lying, out of nowhere. It's not some convoluted or difficult guideline, it's not 'akin to' your example, it's just plain name calling. Don't do it here, please.
mytailorisrich 2y ago
You have not observed anything nor providing any evidence of anything. You are insulting me by calling me names and implying that I am in bad faith (You did not write that I was "wrong", you wrote that I was "lying"), and those were your very first words to me. I have only expressed my opinion based on what I have read [1], including the mailing list. The very fact that the whole affair is causing so much waves suggests that the communication has been poor. You are free to disagree but don't be a dick about it. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/23/linus_torvalds_affirms_expulsion_of/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/23/linus_torvalds_affirm...
- ffsm8 2y ago
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I didn't "start yelling liar". I observed they were doing so, and provided evidence that their claims were lies.

by ffsm8 2y ago

I didn't "start yelling liar". I observed they were doing so, and provided evidence that their claims were lies.

pvg 2y ago

If I observe you are a dunderhead, it's still namecalling and an insult even if I believe the observation is factual. Lots of mod commentary about it (beside being the the site guidelines) https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20facts%20red%20herring&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

ffsm8 2y ago
Yes , what you're doing there is name-calling and a direct insult. You might note that I used a verb, not a noun. I literally described the action the person I was responding to took It's akin to saying "he's talking nonsense" when someone is just putting random syllables after each other. If that is insulting, than the fact he took the action is the insult, not my pointing it out.
- pvg 2y ago
  That's not how insults work and it's definitely not how HN works. You can't start telling people you disagree with that they are lying, out of nowhere. It's not some convoluted or difficult guideline, it's not 'akin to' your example, it's just plain name calling. Don't do it here, please.

mytailorisrich 2y ago

You have not observed anything nor providing any evidence of anything. You are insulting me by calling me names and implying that I am in bad faith (You did not write that I was "wrong", you wrote that I was "lying"), and those were your very first words to me. I have only expressed my opinion based on what I have read [1], including the mailing list. The very fact that the whole affair is causing so much waves suggests that the communication has been poor. You are free to disagree but don't be a dick about it. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/23/linus_torvalds_affirms_expulsion_of/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/23/linus_torvalds_affirm...

ffsm8 2y ago
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