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Eh, I ran a business in Japan and have had that visa. I still tell most people who just want to dip their feet in that the digital nomad visa is totally fine an

Eh, I ran a business in Japan and have had that visa. I still tell most people who just want to dip their feet in that the digital nomad visa is totally fine and a good way to go. That stability and perception only matters if you _truly_ want to live here, and quite a number of people spend ~3 months here [1] and realize that it's got issues past the honeymoon period (like anywhere else). There's also no reason you can't change your visa type if you find you actually like it after the DN trip. [1] "here" because I'm back in Japan for a few weeks for friends at the moment, but you get the idea

gwervc 2y ago
Yes, you run the company. IIRC the visa is about management not investment and the company is expected to be profitable for the visa to be renewed. That's quite a different bunch of requirements than just buying a visa and sleeping on it.
internet101010 2y ago
While this is purely anecdotal, the friends I have that ended up bailing earlier than planned got really annoyed by nonsensical things like ATMs having operating hours and having to use a fax machine to do something. They probably weren't the main problem but more straw that broke the camel's back.
- n_ary 2y ago
  Not sure if you are aware, but you described Germany as well. ;)
  - dpeckett 2y ago
    Lord almighty, at-least the ATM machines here don't have opening hour restrictions. Though ... https://www.ft.com/content/2778b6c4-4be7-4f38-acee-78f38feca743 https://www.ft.com/content/2778b6c4-4be7-4f38-acee-78f38feca...
  - estebank 2y ago
    Well, I do describe Japan as "Kawaii Germany".
- themaninthedark 2y ago
  The ATM working hours can be annoying but honestly I understand the reasoning, it's to prevent drunk guys from being taken advantage of or threatened into making withdraws. Other than those who have built up Japan as a magical place in their head and are inevitably disappointed that it fails to match, I think that the reason that people end up bailing out of any country is one where they are unable to adapt to a culture and it's nuances. Most people would get annoyed when you have to take a document to city hall, get it stamped at one desk thane take it 5 desks over for the stamp there as well. Or you can try and understand why their workflow may be this way. Or just not care. If you are the kind of person who gets annoyed, then you will end up leaving.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  >got really annoyed by nonsensical things like ATMs having operating hours and having to use a fax machine to do something. The ATM operating hours are silly, but 1) you don't need cash that much here anyway, and 2) any decent bank has an ATM with reasonable hours. What are they doing trying to get cash at midnight? Fax machines are a myth today. I've lived here for several years and have never used one for anything. How long ago was this, over a decade ago? Businesses still use them for some dumb reasons, but regular people don't. People don't even have landlines any more, and usually not even printers at home (you can print stuff at your local konbini).
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gwervc 2y ago

Yes, you run the company. IIRC the visa is about management not investment and the company is expected to be profitable for the visa to be renewed. That's quite a different bunch of requirements than just buying a visa and sleeping on it.

internet101010 2y ago

While this is purely anecdotal, the friends I have that ended up bailing earlier than planned got really annoyed by nonsensical things like ATMs having operating hours and having to use a fax machine to do something. They probably weren't the main problem but more straw that broke the camel's back.

n_ary 2y ago
Not sure if you are aware, but you described Germany as well. ;)
- dpeckett 2y ago
  Lord almighty, at-least the ATM machines here don't have opening hour restrictions. Though ... https://www.ft.com/content/2778b6c4-4be7-4f38-acee-78f38feca743 https://www.ft.com/content/2778b6c4-4be7-4f38-acee-78f38feca...
- estebank 2y ago
  Well, I do describe Japan as "Kawaii Germany".
themaninthedark 2y ago
The ATM working hours can be annoying but honestly I understand the reasoning, it's to prevent drunk guys from being taken advantage of or threatened into making withdraws. Other than those who have built up Japan as a magical place in their head and are inevitably disappointed that it fails to match, I think that the reason that people end up bailing out of any country is one where they are unable to adapt to a culture and it's nuances. Most people would get annoyed when you have to take a document to city hall, get it stamped at one desk thane take it 5 desks over for the stamp there as well. Or you can try and understand why their workflow may be this way. Or just not care. If you are the kind of person who gets annoyed, then you will end up leaving.
shiroiushi 2y ago
>got really annoyed by nonsensical things like ATMs having operating hours and having to use a fax machine to do something. The ATM operating hours are silly, but 1) you don't need cash that much here anyway, and 2) any decent bank has an ATM with reasonable hours. What are they doing trying to get cash at midnight? Fax machines are a myth today. I've lived here for several years and have never used one for anything. How long ago was this, over a decade ago? Businesses still use them for some dumb reasons, but regular people don't. People don't even have landlines any more, and usually not even printers at home (you can print stuff at your local konbini).

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