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Us-east-1 is hard to beat. Close to the network centrality of the of the internet, low latency to both the west coast and Europe.

otabdeveloper4 2y ago
> Close to the network centrality of the of the internet Most of the Internet is fractured even though technically publically routable. E.g., for someone living in China the US isn't anywhere near "network centrality". If an internet centrality exists, it is somewhere in France or the Netherlands - usually cross-continent traffic goes through there, they have dedicated interchanges for that.
- immibis 2y ago
  Agreed the network is much denser in Europe than the USA. This is obvious if you've really tried looking for network infrastructure services. The USA is just where a lot more high-level services are, like social media, due to the peculiarities of capitalism. There's no shortage of infrastructure there either, of course. Data caps are apparently illegal here. This is good for the quality of infrastructure. And if you have customers somewhere else you want to be in that place, or close to it network-wise.
- kalleboo 2y ago
  Although in my experience all the traffic from East Asia and Oceania (Australia, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc) to Europe goes through the US. So network-wise, the US is more central.
- utdemir 2y ago
  I did some research about this a while back: https://utdemir.com/posts/choosing-cloud-regions.html#:~:text=are%20geographically%20closer.-,Cloud%20Regions,-Interestingly%2C%20there%27s%20no https://utdemir.com/posts/choosing-cloud-regions.html#:~:tex... You are right, the best region that optimises median latency against all internet users over the world is `us-west-3`, which is Paris - I believe. Likely because it has much better latency towards Asia where the majority of internet users are. I also investigated which two regions to choose for a multi-region setup, which ends up being London and Japan.
poincaredisk 2y ago
My knee jerk reaction was to comment that this is an America-centric thinking (I live in eastern Europe, us-east is not that great), but... After consulting the map, it really looks better than the other options (of course assuming you care mostly about Europe, Americas, and don't want to piss off Asia too much)

otabdeveloper4 2y ago

> Close to the network centrality of the of the internet Most of the Internet is fractured even though technically publically routable. E.g., for someone living in China the US isn't anywhere near "network centrality". If an internet centrality exists, it is somewhere in France or the Netherlands - usually cross-continent traffic goes through there, they have dedicated interchanges for that.

immibis 2y ago
Agreed the network is much denser in Europe than the USA. This is obvious if you've really tried looking for network infrastructure services. The USA is just where a lot more high-level services are, like social media, due to the peculiarities of capitalism. There's no shortage of infrastructure there either, of course. Data caps are apparently illegal here. This is good for the quality of infrastructure. And if you have customers somewhere else you want to be in that place, or close to it network-wise.
kalleboo 2y ago
Although in my experience all the traffic from East Asia and Oceania (Australia, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc) to Europe goes through the US. So network-wise, the US is more central.
utdemir 2y ago
I did some research about this a while back: https://utdemir.com/posts/choosing-cloud-regions.html#:~:text=are%20geographically%20closer.-,Cloud%20Regions,-Interestingly%2C%20there%27s%20no https://utdemir.com/posts/choosing-cloud-regions.html#:~:tex... You are right, the best region that optimises median latency against all internet users over the world is `us-west-3`, which is Paris - I believe. Likely because it has much better latency towards Asia where the majority of internet users are. I also investigated which two regions to choose for a multi-region setup, which ends up being London and Japan.

poincaredisk 2y ago

My knee jerk reaction was to comment that this is an America-centric thinking (I live in eastern Europe, us-east is not that great), but... After consulting the map, it really looks better than the other options (of course assuming you care mostly about Europe, Americas, and don't want to piss off Asia too much)