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What do you mean by 'not working'. The evidence from Sydney and Melbourne says that safe injecting zones save lives. “Without this place I would be dead. Simp

What do you mean by 'not working'. The evidence from Sydney and Melbourne says that safe injecting zones save lives. “Without this place I would be dead. Simply, the MSIC saves lives.” Uniting MSIC client https://www.uniting.org/community-impact/uniting-medically-supervised-injecting-centre--msic https://www.uniting.org/community-impact/uniting-medically-s... “We also have strong evidence to say that SIFs not only save the lives of people who inject drugs, but also improve their lives,” George Dertadian, a senior lecturer of criminology at the UNSW https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-12/safe-injecting-facility-south-west-sydney-lower-rising-overdoses/103781332 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-12/safe-injecting-facili...

tyleo 2y ago
Sorry, I meant to say decriminalization. I live near Oregon and decriminalization was a disaster. This video captures it well: https://youtu.be/2GU3TGSWPsw?si=fie4SFowzdnKNFRK https://youtu.be/2GU3TGSWPsw?si=fie4SFowzdnKNFRK I dove into this topic to understand what went wrong to the best of my ability. From what I gather, countries with successful decriminalization also have government assistance for the addicted. That’s much different than the US’s “shoot up anywhere, any time.” That being said, the point I was responding to is that, of the two extremes, total prohibition seems better than total decriminalization.
- stouset 2y ago
  Out of curiosity, was the money saved from decriminalization reallocated into addiction treatment?
  - vintermann 2y ago
    Bold to assume there was any money saved. But either way, people underestimate how expensive addiction treatment is, and overestimate how effective it is. Prohibition of alcohol, or rather the teetotaller movement, came because they realized society had a problem it couldn't individualize and pay itself out of. We still haven't, but for a good 80 years we've had enough money to hide the problem.

tyleo 2y ago

Sorry, I meant to say decriminalization. I live near Oregon and decriminalization was a disaster. This video captures it well: https://youtu.be/2GU3TGSWPsw?si=fie4SFowzdnKNFRK https://youtu.be/2GU3TGSWPsw?si=fie4SFowzdnKNFRK I dove into this topic to understand what went wrong to the best of my ability. From what I gather, countries with successful decriminalization also have government assistance for the addicted. That’s much different than the US’s “shoot up anywhere, any time.” That being said, the point I was responding to is that, of the two extremes, total prohibition seems better than total decriminalization.

stouset 2y ago
Out of curiosity, was the money saved from decriminalization reallocated into addiction treatment?
- vintermann 2y ago
  Bold to assume there was any money saved. But either way, people underestimate how expensive addiction treatment is, and overestimate how effective it is. Prohibition of alcohol, or rather the teetotaller movement, came because they realized society had a problem it couldn't individualize and pay itself out of. We still haven't, but for a good 80 years we've had enough money to hide the problem.