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Apple aren’t doing this out of the goodness of their own hearts, they’re being forced to by the EU. So unless their hand is being forced elsewhere they’re not g

Apple aren’t doing this out of the goodness of their own hearts, they’re being forced to by the EU. So unless their hand is being forced elsewhere they’re not going to do it.

xp84 2y ago
Yup. You can bet most developed countries will start to follow suit now. Remember Apple's argument before they exhausted their appeals with the EU was that they could never do any of this, and the sky would fall, and their whole business would be destroyed. Now, that will have been proven to be absolute poppycock as they begin to abide by all these regulations in this one (large) region. I expect regulators in Japan, UK, Australia, etc. will start to say "Yeah, we want that too." And Apple has zero plausible argument left for why consumers everywhere else don't deserve or can't have the same level of choice. Obviously not in America though, since we don't have a functioning government, just an executive branch that doesn't have the support of Congress, and a judicial branch that believes strongly that only an act of Congress could create the authority needed to actually rein them in. And a Congress which would ideally like to avoid doing any legislating besides passing a continuing resolution or debt ceiling bill every now and then, since there's too much fundraising work to do.
latexr 2y ago
I think GP’s point is that in this case gating the feature is extra work with zero benefit for Apple², so why not just do it anyway³? ¹ At the very least more code and cases and testing where it could go wrong. ² Maybe reduced support calls? ³ Spite could be a reason.
- afavour 2y ago
  Zero benefit? They get to keep a captive audience using the App Store. What's not to like?
  - latexr 2y ago
    That makes no sense. If you’re the type of person who’d want to delete the App Store app despite not having access to alternatives, you’re not someone who’d ever want it or use it or buy from it.

Apple aren’t doing this out of the goodness of their own hearts, they’re being forced to by the EU. So unless their hand is being forced elsewhere they’re not going to do it.

xp84 2y ago

Yup. You can bet most developed countries will start to follow suit now. Remember Apple's argument before they exhausted their appeals with the EU was that they could never do any of this, and the sky would fall, and their whole business would be destroyed. Now, that will have been proven to be absolute poppycock as they begin to abide by all these regulations in this one (large) region. I expect regulators in Japan, UK, Australia, etc. will start to say "Yeah, we want that too." And Apple has zero plausible argument left for why consumers everywhere else don't deserve or can't have the same level of choice. Obviously not in America though, since we don't have a functioning government, just an executive branch that doesn't have the support of Congress, and a judicial branch that believes strongly that only an act of Congress could create the authority needed to actually rein them in. And a Congress which would ideally like to avoid doing any legislating besides passing a continuing resolution or debt ceiling bill every now and then, since there's too much fundraising work to do.

latexr 2y ago

I think GP’s point is that in this case gating the feature is extra work with zero benefit for Apple², so why not just do it anyway³? ¹ At the very least more code and cases and testing where it could go wrong. ² Maybe reduced support calls? ³ Spite could be a reason.

afavour 2y ago
Zero benefit? They get to keep a captive audience using the App Store. What's not to like?
- latexr 2y ago
  That makes no sense. If you’re the type of person who’d want to delete the App Store app despite not having access to alternatives, you’re not someone who’d ever want it or use it or buy from it.