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They are part of the iOS System partition, so almost certainly just hidden. Considering that the entire point is to improve competitiveness, hidden is almost ce

They are part of the iOS System partition, so almost certainly just hidden. Considering that the entire point is to improve competitiveness, hidden is almost certainly good enough, as it's not the EU's job to be disk space czars.

vlovich123 2y ago
Beyond just that, if you uninstall the app store, how would you get it back without it already being available on-device? You'd probably need Safari but then if that's removed too? > Apps that are removed, such as the App Store , can be re-downloaded using an "App Installation" section in the Settings app. Whether that's really a redownload or restore from disk cache probably doesn't matter unless the EU starts to argue that it being available with 0 latency from disk is a competitive advantage.
- gjsman-1000 2y ago
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- eviks 2y ago
  > if you uninstall the app store, how would you get it back without it already being available on-device via a different install mechanism? How do you install Windows apps without MS store?
  - Almondsetat 2y ago
    What does Windows have to do with this?
    - eviks 2y ago
      It serves as an example of what is possible
      - vlovich123 2y ago
        Or you know, just keep it around on disk without removing it fully. The bigger issue is I’m surprised they’re being allowed to remain the default. I wonder why the different tack vs what they forced Windows to do with IE in Europe.
        xp84 2y ago
        The following is a wildly optimistic speculation here since we're talking about government bureaucrats here, but perhaps they noticed that in the Windows/IE case: - The choice screen thing didn't make one lick of difference, and: - MSIE died of completely self-inflicted wounds anyway only a few years after this. Perhaps these two facts, though they don't prove the 'choice screen' was bad, also did nothing to establish that approach as a proven way to promote competition, so regulators weren't moved to emulate it. (Personally, I would argue that choice screens at a point in time when one option has overwhelming mindshare are pretty pointless. Everyone will choose the dominant one by recognition, except geeks who knew how to change defaults anyway, and confused newbies who are probably the ones who realistically should be using the most 'mainstream' option anyway.)
- toast0 2y ago
  They'd need some hook to get the app store back if you really uninstalled everything. Worst case, a box where you type in the url for an ipa (and a restriction that you must have at least one keyboard installed; although if your keyboard always crashes...) Even worse case, use iTunes on a computer to push apps to the phone, although that imposes a requirement of access to a computer. Maybe a way to push apps between iPhones.

vlovich123 2y ago

Beyond just that, if you uninstall the app store, how would you get it back without it already being available on-device? You'd probably need Safari but then if that's removed too? > Apps that are removed, such as the App Store , can be re-downloaded using an "App Installation" section in the Settings app. Whether that's really a redownload or restore from disk cache probably doesn't matter unless the EU starts to argue that it being available with 0 latency from disk is a competitive advantage.

gjsman-1000 2y ago
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eviks 2y ago
> if you uninstall the app store, how would you get it back without it already being available on-device via a different install mechanism? How do you install Windows apps without MS store?
- Almondsetat 2y ago
  What does Windows have to do with this?
  - eviks 2y ago
    It serves as an example of what is possible
    - vlovich123 2y ago
      Or you know, just keep it around on disk without removing it fully. The bigger issue is I’m surprised they’re being allowed to remain the default. I wonder why the different tack vs what they forced Windows to do with IE in Europe.
      - xp84 2y ago
        The following is a wildly optimistic speculation here since we're talking about government bureaucrats here, but perhaps they noticed that in the Windows/IE case: - The choice screen thing didn't make one lick of difference, and: - MSIE died of completely self-inflicted wounds anyway only a few years after this. Perhaps these two facts, though they don't prove the 'choice screen' was bad, also did nothing to establish that approach as a proven way to promote competition, so regulators weren't moved to emulate it. (Personally, I would argue that choice screens at a point in time when one option has overwhelming mindshare are pretty pointless. Everyone will choose the dominant one by recognition, except geeks who knew how to change defaults anyway, and confused newbies who are probably the ones who realistically should be using the most 'mainstream' option anyway.)
toast0 2y ago
They'd need some hook to get the app store back if you really uninstalled everything. Worst case, a box where you type in the url for an ipa (and a restriction that you must have at least one keyboard installed; although if your keyboard always crashes...) Even worse case, use iTunes on a computer to push apps to the phone, although that imposes a requirement of access to a computer. Maybe a way to push apps between iPhones.