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> One unique feature of Babel Street is the ability to toggle a “night” mode, which makes it relatively easy to determine within a few meters where a target typ

> One unique feature of Babel Street is the ability to toggle a “night” mode, which makes it relatively easy to determine within a few meters where a target typically lays their head each night (because their phone is usually not far away). There are very few reasons in my mind that anyone, especially law enforcement, would need this "feature" and they're all pretty dark.

jcgrillo 2y ago
I could see this being extremely valuable to law enforcement if they're planning on making an arrest. They're a lot more likely to not get shot by the suspect if they know they're asleep. It's also the sort of thing that's not germane to making their case against the suspect--it's tactically relevant but strategically irrelevant. So we need something more than the 4th amendment here? That's actually a question I'm not a lawyer and don't know what this actually implies. Naively, it seems to me that if information is inadmissible in making their case, law enforcement should have no access to it and, probably, neither should anyone else.
- JohnMakin 2y ago
  That only would matter on no knock warrants, right? That’s the best case I can think of (still bad imo, I think no knock warrants are abused and lead to bad outcomes more often than good ones).
  - jcgrillo 2y ago
    Yeah I agree it all adds up to nothing good.
- Intralexical 2y ago
  > They're a lot more likely to not get shot by the suspect if they know they're asleep. Are they even? Or, can they know that? If the suspect has a gun, they'll wake up scared, confused, and with every reason to believe somebody's illegally breaking and entering.
  - ashildr 2y ago
    Her name was Breonna Taylor, she was an emergency medical technician until police shot her. #sayHerName https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor

jcgrillo 2y ago

I could see this being extremely valuable to law enforcement if they're planning on making an arrest. They're a lot more likely to not get shot by the suspect if they know they're asleep. It's also the sort of thing that's not germane to making their case against the suspect--it's tactically relevant but strategically irrelevant. So we need something more than the 4th amendment here? That's actually a question I'm not a lawyer and don't know what this actually implies. Naively, it seems to me that if information is inadmissible in making their case, law enforcement should have no access to it and, probably, neither should anyone else.

JohnMakin 2y ago
That only would matter on no knock warrants, right? That’s the best case I can think of (still bad imo, I think no knock warrants are abused and lead to bad outcomes more often than good ones).
- jcgrillo 2y ago
  Yeah I agree it all adds up to nothing good.
Intralexical 2y ago
> They're a lot more likely to not get shot by the suspect if they know they're asleep. Are they even? Or, can they know that? If the suspect has a gun, they'll wake up scared, confused, and with every reason to believe somebody's illegally breaking and entering.
- ashildr 2y ago
  Her name was Breonna Taylor, she was an emergency medical technician until police shot her. #sayHerName https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor