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I agree, but let me get on a soapbox for a moment. In the context of weight loss, "cravings" is just a judgemental way of saying "hunger". I have gained a ton

I agree, but let me get on a soapbox for a moment. In the context of weight loss, "cravings" is just a judgemental way of saying "hunger". I have gained a ton of weight in the past four years, going from a BMI of 19 to a BMI of 28. I do not have "cravings". I experience constant hunger. I got tired of being hungry all the time and started eating until I am no longer hungry, and that's why I'm fat now. Calories in, calories out, and all that nonsense that doesn't account for hunger is just a way of dismissing the very real struggle of people who, for whatever reason, have a disproportionate amount of hunger relative to the amount of energy they need on a daily basis.

idontwantthis 2y ago
Do you feel like there are different kinds of hunger? For me there is the kind I can usually ignore and the “I feel sick” kind I can’t.
- t-writescode 2y ago
  Not the person you're responding to; but, it's called "hangry" for a reason! I definitely have the: * "I could eat" * "I should probably eat soon" * "Everyone around me is now annoying and I hate everyone and everything and why is this work problem so hard and darn it, I have a meeting in 3 minutes? Who schedules a meeting at this time?!" level.
  - nsxwolf 2y ago
    There is another kind of hunger that kicks in when you’re actually dying from not eating. I had advanced gallbladder disease that went misdiagnosed for a long time and the last month I was able to eat about 500 total calories. I had a desperate desire to eat something, anything, that is impossible to describe accurately.
- cthalupa 2y ago
  One interesting thing I have noticed on tirzepatide is I am much better able to differentiate when I am thirsty vs. when I am hungry. Before, if I wasn't getting to "my mouth is dry" levels of thirst, they were indistinguishable for me. It frequently became a guessing game for me to try and figure out which it was - did I gamble that I just needed to drink some more, and run the risk of feeling worse from what turned out to be actual hunger? Or did I just eat some food, which also included drinking more fluids, and make sure I was back to feeling OK soon after? I can tell you which option I chose most of the time, particularly if I was busy with work or a personal project. Now, I have a much easier time differentiating.
t-writescode 2y ago
Thank you for the add. You've clarified something I didn't even realize needed clarifying! This is a fantastic way of thinking about it.
Suppafly 2y ago
>In the context of weight loss, "cravings" is just a judgemental way of saying "hunger". I always assumed cravings was when something sounded good and you could eat it but weren't necessarily hungry. Like most days I have a craving for some ice cream but I'm not actually physically hungry. Ignoring that craving means that I eat a lot less overall.. it doesn't mean that I end up eating alternative foods instead. >I experience constant hunger. I got tired of being hungry all the time and started eating until I am no longer hungry, and that's why I'm fat now. You seem like someone that Ozempic type drugs would help since they slow down digestion and make you feel full for longer.
- david-gpu 2y ago
  > I always assumed cravings was when something sounded good and you could eat it but weren't necessarily hungry. I do not eat when I am not hungry. Why would I do that? I'm already fat enough.
  - Suppafly 2y ago
    A lot of people do though, the confuse the desire to have a rush from sweets or the lack of feeling overly stuffed as being hungry. Hell, we all do something similar during holidays when we choke down that extra serving of our favorite food because we enjoy the taste, despite being beyond full.
    - dustyventure 2y ago
      There was an interesting theory that obesity was connected to a duller taste sense. I think that can relate to the dulling effect when repetitively eating the same thing. In essense, when one has a craving for something expected/remembered that is actually unattainable, one over eats. Of course, that conflicts with a common theory of smoking and weight loss being about taste reduction as opposed to an alternative craving as a substitute or some other cause.
      - Suppafly 2y ago
kcplate 2y ago
I can only offer what has worked for me, at one point losing over 170 lbs. Admittedly gaining 50 back thanks to the good old pandemic making some bad habits easy again and limiting my chosen form of exercise due to swimming pool closures. Thankfully back on the right track and down 30 and still dropping since June. The name of the game in controlling hunger is finding a diet that creates satiety. For me this was keto. Getting that fat macro up to 75% was the magic bullet, if I was below that, I had “cravings”. If I was at or above that I was fine. I am not suggesting that is the right way of eating for everyone. I think diet is an individual endeavor, but for me it was the right way to keep that hunger at bay.

idontwantthis 2y ago

Do you feel like there are different kinds of hunger? For me there is the kind I can usually ignore and the “I feel sick” kind I can’t.

t-writescode 2y ago
Not the person you're responding to; but, it's called "hangry" for a reason! I definitely have the: * "I could eat" * "I should probably eat soon" * "Everyone around me is now annoying and I hate everyone and everything and why is this work problem so hard and darn it, I have a meeting in 3 minutes? Who schedules a meeting at this time?!" level.
- nsxwolf 2y ago
  There is another kind of hunger that kicks in when you’re actually dying from not eating. I had advanced gallbladder disease that went misdiagnosed for a long time and the last month I was able to eat about 500 total calories. I had a desperate desire to eat something, anything, that is impossible to describe accurately.
cthalupa 2y ago
One interesting thing I have noticed on tirzepatide is I am much better able to differentiate when I am thirsty vs. when I am hungry. Before, if I wasn't getting to "my mouth is dry" levels of thirst, they were indistinguishable for me. It frequently became a guessing game for me to try and figure out which it was - did I gamble that I just needed to drink some more, and run the risk of feeling worse from what turned out to be actual hunger? Or did I just eat some food, which also included drinking more fluids, and make sure I was back to feeling OK soon after? I can tell you which option I chose most of the time, particularly if I was busy with work or a personal project. Now, I have a much easier time differentiating.

t-writescode 2y ago

Thank you for the add. You've clarified something I didn't even realize needed clarifying! This is a fantastic way of thinking about it.

Suppafly 2y ago

>In the context of weight loss, "cravings" is just a judgemental way of saying "hunger". I always assumed cravings was when something sounded good and you could eat it but weren't necessarily hungry. Like most days I have a craving for some ice cream but I'm not actually physically hungry. Ignoring that craving means that I eat a lot less overall.. it doesn't mean that I end up eating alternative foods instead. >I experience constant hunger. I got tired of being hungry all the time and started eating until I am no longer hungry, and that's why I'm fat now. You seem like someone that Ozempic type drugs would help since they slow down digestion and make you feel full for longer.

david-gpu 2y ago
> I always assumed cravings was when something sounded good and you could eat it but weren't necessarily hungry. I do not eat when I am not hungry. Why would I do that? I'm already fat enough.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  A lot of people do though, the confuse the desire to have a rush from sweets or the lack of feeling overly stuffed as being hungry. Hell, we all do something similar during holidays when we choke down that extra serving of our favorite food because we enjoy the taste, despite being beyond full.
  - dustyventure 2y ago
    There was an interesting theory that obesity was connected to a duller taste sense. I think that can relate to the dulling effect when repetitively eating the same thing. In essense, when one has a craving for something expected/remembered that is actually unattainable, one over eats. Of course, that conflicts with a common theory of smoking and weight loss being about taste reduction as opposed to an alternative craving as a substitute or some other cause.
    - Suppafly 2y ago

kcplate 2y ago

I can only offer what has worked for me, at one point losing over 170 lbs. Admittedly gaining 50 back thanks to the good old pandemic making some bad habits easy again and limiting my chosen form of exercise due to swimming pool closures. Thankfully back on the right track and down 30 and still dropping since June. The name of the game in controlling hunger is finding a diet that creates satiety. For me this was keto. Getting that fat macro up to 75% was the magic bullet, if I was below that, I had “cravings”. If I was at or above that I was fine. I am not suggesting that is the right way of eating for everyone. I think diet is an individual endeavor, but for me it was the right way to keep that hunger at bay.