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THanks, just always have had good user experience in every way with Apple, so getting email notifications one after the other where they said you need to upgrad

THanks, just always have had good user experience in every way with Apple, so getting email notifications one after the other where they said you need to upgrade if you want us to continue backing your stuff up was mildly odd. Yet, in their first communication they didnt mention anything about not getting email yet they did in the third or so email which felt very anti-user to me. As for Apple Intelligence Ive been using it since late September/early October. Been using ChatGPT app on iPhone for months to more so I expected Siri to be comparable to GPT but its not even close at all. Siri still doesnt understand you always like GPT does, points you to a Google search (maybe that's due to a built agreement with Google) for most things and can not recall how many calories i ate a few days ago (example of recall memory). Using GPT while driving is awesome/handy/i find it very useful (to get info for various chores & count my daily calories). Yet Siri to have the same experience would cause me to have accident.

kemayo 2y ago
Yeah, all of that Siri stuff you're trying isn't there yet. 18.1 (the current beta) has minor improvements to Siri for immediate follow up requests and parsing requests where you stumble over words. 18.2 is supposed to be picking up ChatGPT integration so Siri can ask it about things. The "personal context" recall is apparently in 18.4, so we won't see it until next year. Honestly, 18.1 launching the new Siri UI (the glowy look) feels like a bad idea -- I'd have kept it until 18.4 when the real intelligence improvements actually land. https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/22/apple-intelligence-features-timing/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/22/apple-intelligence-feat...
gtvwill 2y ago
Apples constant push for subscription icloud data storage is predatory at best. The amount of users/clients I come across with devices way out of date re software/security patches because their iphones not got enough space on it to download its own update and it doesn't provide a easy way to transfer large chunks of data off it like photos/videos is ridiculous. Something like 50% of users easily. Sample size probably upwards of 50. They get constantly harassed by crap asking them to buy icloud storage.
- paul7986 2y ago
  yeah the whole Apple Intelligence only available to 15 and 16 iPhone users is anti-user / juice profits move. The horrid thing is Apple Intelligence is not worth upgrading your device for and yet that's their marketing to get people to upgrade lol. As another commenter in this thread commented a comparable ChatGPT Siri is coming yet not for some months. Definitely would jump to another platform if the phone is an AI sentient like driven phone (new paradigm in phone design / layout where there's not as much UI). So far ChatGPT is my best experience with such an AI and Microsoft who owns what half of Open AI did create pretty good Windows phone back in the day. Maybe it will happen... been wanting such since I first used ChatGPT.
  - threeseed 2y ago
    > yeah the whole Apple Intelligence only available to 15 and 16 iPhone users iPhone 14 has 6GB RAM. iPhone 15 Pro + 16 have 8GB RAM. The LORA adapters need to be loaded into memory so seems reasonable they would need extra.
- gruez 2y ago
  >and it doesn't provide a easy way to transfer large chunks of data off it like photos/videos is ridiculous Using the web interface of another cloud provider to upload files there, and downloading it on your other device? Most cloud providers give you around 10GB for free, which should be more than enough room to install ios updates.
rootusrootus 2y ago
On the flip side, if Apple can keep most/all the processing on device, I'll accept a modest reduction in quality compared to ChatGPT. Admittedly I haven't tried Apple Intelligence yet so I don't know just how big the reduction in quality is.
- paul7986 2y ago
  That's cool... personally Im most interested in cool tech/innovation over privacy if that's what you mean by keep the processing on the device.
  - threeseed 2y ago
    Many of us however would strongly prefer that our photos, documents, emails, contacts etc not be stored unencrypted on a server. And the capabilities of this model would still be limited as well given that Apple is not going to be able to host a large parameter one for each user.
    - paul7986 2y ago
      yeah everyone is different ... im either an innovator (of go nowhere technology lol) or an early adopter. Like Im enjoying my Ray Ban Metas since last October (use them daily). Yet for many they are a privacy nightmare.
- aucisson_masque 2y ago
  > if Apple can keep most/all the processing on device, I'll accept a modest reduction in quality compared to ChatGPT. Be ready to accept a huge decrease in quality, even compared to chatgpt 3.5 Phones are not computer, they use battery. Whatever apple do, it can't beat the law of physics. There is no way but send it all on remote computer for ai.
  - rootusrootus 2y ago
    Agreed, but the kind of stuff I want it to be capable of is way more limited than I'd ask of ChatGPT. I've tried a little model on my iPhone (Llama-3.2-3B-Instruct) that was better than I expected, both in capability and in responsiveness. Gives me hope for the future of on-device processing.

kemayo 2y ago

Yeah, all of that Siri stuff you're trying isn't there yet. 18.1 (the current beta) has minor improvements to Siri for immediate follow up requests and parsing requests where you stumble over words. 18.2 is supposed to be picking up ChatGPT integration so Siri can ask it about things. The "personal context" recall is apparently in 18.4, so we won't see it until next year. Honestly, 18.1 launching the new Siri UI (the glowy look) feels like a bad idea -- I'd have kept it until 18.4 when the real intelligence improvements actually land. https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/22/apple-intelligence-features-timing/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/22/apple-intelligence-feat...

gtvwill 2y ago

Apples constant push for subscription icloud data storage is predatory at best. The amount of users/clients I come across with devices way out of date re software/security patches because their iphones not got enough space on it to download its own update and it doesn't provide a easy way to transfer large chunks of data off it like photos/videos is ridiculous. Something like 50% of users easily. Sample size probably upwards of 50. They get constantly harassed by crap asking them to buy icloud storage.

paul7986 2y ago
yeah the whole Apple Intelligence only available to 15 and 16 iPhone users is anti-user / juice profits move. The horrid thing is Apple Intelligence is not worth upgrading your device for and yet that's their marketing to get people to upgrade lol. As another commenter in this thread commented a comparable ChatGPT Siri is coming yet not for some months. Definitely would jump to another platform if the phone is an AI sentient like driven phone (new paradigm in phone design / layout where there's not as much UI). So far ChatGPT is my best experience with such an AI and Microsoft who owns what half of Open AI did create pretty good Windows phone back in the day. Maybe it will happen... been wanting such since I first used ChatGPT.
- threeseed 2y ago
  > yeah the whole Apple Intelligence only available to 15 and 16 iPhone users iPhone 14 has 6GB RAM. iPhone 15 Pro + 16 have 8GB RAM. The LORA adapters need to be loaded into memory so seems reasonable they would need extra.
gruez 2y ago
>and it doesn't provide a easy way to transfer large chunks of data off it like photos/videos is ridiculous Using the web interface of another cloud provider to upload files there, and downloading it on your other device? Most cloud providers give you around 10GB for free, which should be more than enough room to install ios updates.

rootusrootus 2y ago

On the flip side, if Apple can keep most/all the processing on device, I'll accept a modest reduction in quality compared to ChatGPT. Admittedly I haven't tried Apple Intelligence yet so I don't know just how big the reduction in quality is.

paul7986 2y ago
That's cool... personally Im most interested in cool tech/innovation over privacy if that's what you mean by keep the processing on the device.
- threeseed 2y ago
  Many of us however would strongly prefer that our photos, documents, emails, contacts etc not be stored unencrypted on a server. And the capabilities of this model would still be limited as well given that Apple is not going to be able to host a large parameter one for each user.
  - paul7986 2y ago
    yeah everyone is different ... im either an innovator (of go nowhere technology lol) or an early adopter. Like Im enjoying my Ray Ban Metas since last October (use them daily). Yet for many they are a privacy nightmare.
aucisson_masque 2y ago
> if Apple can keep most/all the processing on device, I'll accept a modest reduction in quality compared to ChatGPT. Be ready to accept a huge decrease in quality, even compared to chatgpt 3.5 Phones are not computer, they use battery. Whatever apple do, it can't beat the law of physics. There is no way but send it all on remote computer for ai.
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  Agreed, but the kind of stuff I want it to be capable of is way more limited than I'd ask of ChatGPT. I've tried a little model on my iPhone (Llama-3.2-3B-Instruct) that was better than I expected, both in capability and in responsiveness. Gives me hope for the future of on-device processing.