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If anyone wants the ultimate case study in failed Apple business expansions, go back and watch the March 2019 event (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZmBoMZFC8g

If anyone wants the ultimate case study in failed Apple business expansions, go back and watch the March 2019 event (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZmBoMZFC8g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZmBoMZFC8g). Apple TV+, Apple Card, Apple News+, and Apple Arcade where all launched there. All have been, for Apple's size and scale, business debacles. Apple TV+'s debacles are well documented in this post, Apple Card is in the news today for incompetence (and has lost billions from Goldman Sachs, and has never launched outside the US), Apple News+ is doing okay with 19 million subscribers, and Apple Arcade has caused no shortage of public publisher ire (#1). Edit for #1: Apple Arcade has been a dumpster fire on the backend... https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/07/31/apple-arcade-developers-say-working-with-apple-is-like-being-in-an-abusive-relationship https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/07/31/apple-arcade-deve... https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/10/08/ex-app-store-head-says-apple-arcade-violates-apples-own-policies https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/10/08/ex-app-store-head... https://mobilegamer.biz/inside-apple-arcade-axed-games-declining-payouts-disillusioned-studios-and-an-uncertain-future/ https://mobilegamer.biz/inside-apple-arcade-axed-games-decli... https://mobilegamer.biz/inside-apple-arcade-again-late-payments-stonewalled-studios-terrible-tech-support-and-vision-pro-woes/ https://mobilegamer.biz/inside-apple-arcade-again-late-payme...

yial 2y ago
Apple Card doesn’t seem like a loss for Apple and customers however. Just Goldman Sachs. Though it does seem like Apple may have given GS overly optimistic data. Apple Arcade from a user standpoint seems okay. (I have only played two games from it, but keep the subscription for other family members). Apple TV I forget about, even though I have enjoyed some great content on it. News, while I have it, I have never used. Same with Apple Music. (Which I think is in the same bundle of things).
- Apocryphon 2y ago
  Wonder what's the most dispensable Apple service. I'd guess either Apple News or Apple Fitness+. I don't think these Apple One services are chipping away hugely from Apple's bottom line, but it almost feels a little like a retread of the '90s when they were making everything from the Newton to printers to the Pippin. At least software services are cheaper to build than real gear!
  - fmajid 2y ago
    I’d pay for Apple Peace and Quiet®, where they promise to stop trying to shove trials for useless Apple services down our throats.
hobs 2y ago
I specifically got the Apple card because it was losing GS money and it made me laugh.
- jitl 2y ago
  I’m also happy to take GS’s 4.x% interest

yial 2y ago

Apple Card doesn’t seem like a loss for Apple and customers however. Just Goldman Sachs. Though it does seem like Apple may have given GS overly optimistic data. Apple Arcade from a user standpoint seems okay. (I have only played two games from it, but keep the subscription for other family members). Apple TV I forget about, even though I have enjoyed some great content on it. News, while I have it, I have never used. Same with Apple Music. (Which I think is in the same bundle of things).

Apocryphon 2y ago
Wonder what's the most dispensable Apple service. I'd guess either Apple News or Apple Fitness+. I don't think these Apple One services are chipping away hugely from Apple's bottom line, but it almost feels a little like a retread of the '90s when they were making everything from the Newton to printers to the Pippin. At least software services are cheaper to build than real gear!
- fmajid 2y ago
  I’d pay for Apple Peace and Quiet®, where they promise to stop trying to shove trials for useless Apple services down our throats.

hobs 2y ago

I specifically got the Apple card because it was losing GS money and it made me laugh.

jitl 2y ago
I’m also happy to take GS’s 4.x% interest