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"OpenTelemetry and other tools are promising, but again, I’ve never seen good enough infra that puts that all together." It's a two paragraph comment and you s

• msoad 2y ago
  Exactly! I've never seen a 5000+ eng org that have all their ducks in a row when it comes to telemetry. it's one of those things that you can't put a team in charge of it and get results. everyone have to be on the same page which in a big org is hardly the case.
• hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
  I did read it, and I don't understand why you feel the need to be an asshole. Like I said in my comment, I do think getting everyone on the same page in a large, diverse organization is difficult. That said, it's not rocket science, and it's usually difficult because there aren't organizational incentives in place to actually ensure teams prioritize making system-wide observability work. FWIW, the process I've seen at more than 1 company is that people bitch about debugging being a pain, they put in a couple half measures to improve things, and then finally it becomes so much of a pain that they say "fine, we need to get all of our ducks in a row", execs make it a priority, and then they finally implement a system-wide observability process that works.