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Exactly this. The NYT ceased being the paper of record a long time ago.

by brodouevencode 2y ago

drawkward 2y ago
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- CamperBob2 2y ago
  It's hard to get past their cheerleading for the Iraq war, for example.
  - pessimizer 2y ago
    It really wasn't. It wasn't difficult for anyone to get past their cheerleading for the Iraq War other than Judith Miller, who (for her service) was given a fake job at a fake conservative paper for a time that I'm sure paid her enough to retire comfortably. The Cheneys and Bushes are media and political darlings. No one paid a price for going with the herd, and doing what the administration demanded. It was and is difficult for people who failed to cheer on the Iraq War. The NYT has always been on the administration's side when asked, and "corrects" the record about 5 years after it could make a difference for anyone. Everyone involved gets cush editor-in-chief jobs at "liberal" magazines, or professorships at quarter-million dollar J-schools.
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  - drawkward 2y ago
    That doesn't make it not the paper of record.
    - taco_emoji 2y ago
      ok, what DOES make it the paper of record?
      - drawkward 2y ago
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_of_record https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_of_record
        taco_emoji 2y ago
        ...which says that it's based on reputation. I presume the previous poster's opinion is that the NYT is no longer deserving of that reputation. It's weird that you asked for a citation of their opinion.
        drawkward 2y ago
        One person's opinion doesn't make it not the paper of record. It's more like a state change that requires some critical mass.
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  - g8oz 2y ago
    And the more recent example of "Screams without words". https://web.archive.org/web/20240817191751/https://www.semafor.com/article/03/03/2024/how-the-times-stumbled-on-a-sensitive-israel-story https://web.archive.org/web/20240817191751/https://www.semaf...
delfinom 2y ago
Shit they aren't even the "New York Times" anymore because they officially made their focus national and have jack shit for New York coverage.

Exactly this. The NYT ceased being the paper of record a long time ago.

drawkward 2y ago

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CamperBob2 2y ago
It's hard to get past their cheerleading for the Iraq war, for example.
- pessimizer 2y ago
  It really wasn't. It wasn't difficult for anyone to get past their cheerleading for the Iraq War other than Judith Miller, who (for her service) was given a fake job at a fake conservative paper for a time that I'm sure paid her enough to retire comfortably. The Cheneys and Bushes are media and political darlings. No one paid a price for going with the herd, and doing what the administration demanded. It was and is difficult for people who failed to cheer on the Iraq War. The NYT has always been on the administration's side when asked, and "corrects" the record about 5 years after it could make a difference for anyone. Everyone involved gets cush editor-in-chief jobs at "liberal" magazines, or professorships at quarter-million dollar J-schools.
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- drawkward 2y ago
  That doesn't make it not the paper of record.
  - taco_emoji 2y ago
    ok, what DOES make it the paper of record?
    - drawkward 2y ago
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_of_record https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_of_record
      - taco_emoji 2y ago
        ...which says that it's based on reputation. I presume the previous poster's opinion is that the NYT is no longer deserving of that reputation. It's weird that you asked for a citation of their opinion.
        drawkward 2y ago
        One person's opinion doesn't make it not the paper of record. It's more like a state change that requires some critical mass.
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- g8oz 2y ago
  And the more recent example of "Screams without words". https://web.archive.org/web/20240817191751/https://www.semafor.com/article/03/03/2024/how-the-times-stumbled-on-a-sensitive-israel-story https://web.archive.org/web/20240817191751/https://www.semaf...

delfinom 2y ago

Shit they aren't even the "New York Times" anymore because they officially made their focus national and have jack shit for New York coverage.