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That's the thing, Meta is /not/ "doing" glasses. They had a very limited run at $10K+/ea just for internal testing IIRC. That's very different from a shipping $

That's the thing, Meta is /not/ "doing" glasses. They had a very limited run at $10K+/ea just for internal testing IIRC. That's very different from a shipping $3.5K product. It's also not clear if Meta could ship their glasses at ~$10K or if they'd need to charge even more. Apple has repeatedly said that AR is where they want to be and glasses are what they want to do (directly and via leaks) but the tech wasn't there yet. "There yet" can mean "we can't figure out how to get the cost down to something reasonable". The AVP was clearly a "Let's fake it till we make it" product with faux-AR (or maybe it's still just "AR" but faux-"glasses"?) with the end goal of removing the ski visor for just glasses.

7thpower 2y ago
I think part of the challenge Apple now has is convincing developers who were already on the fence that they should take the plunge now rather than wait for what looks to be a clearly superior form factor. It’s not like customers (aside from those who already have the hardware) are beating down anyone’s door asking for the Vision Pro. This is very handwavy, but if Apple does intend to pursue the glasses form factor it would probably benefit them to do the very make the very un-apple move of articulating how investments into developing for Vision Pro will extend into glasses.
- joshstrange 2y ago
  > make the very un-apple move of articulating how investments into developing for Vision Pro will extend into glasses I doubt they will come out and say that specifically but they pushed ARKit and VRKit for year prior to the AVP.
butlike 2y ago
I don't know, I just tested the Meta Quest last night and at $300 it looked GOOD. Give it a few years and I bet they could get that level of fidelity into a glass frame @ ~$1000-1200
- joshstrange 2y ago
  Well the Meta Quest 2 starts $500 so I'm not sure if you were using a MQ2 or MQ3S (which has essentially the screens of the MQ2 from what I understand). I have tried the MQ2 (I own one) and I have tried the MQ3. The 3 is better but the resolution is still not great, the AVP was much better than either. I did like the color passthrough on the MQ3 (vs grayscale on the 2) but I wouldn't say any of it looked "GOOD", it was adequate but still too blurry. I think I'll end up getting a MQ3 eventually or maybe the next version at launch but I'm just not really drawn to VR. After the first few months of my MQ2 I lost interest and it's just collecting dust.
- asadotzler 2y ago
  No, they cannot. Completely different technology tracks with the goggles form factor a dead end and the glasses form factor a decade or two away from consumer costs.

7thpower 2y ago

I think part of the challenge Apple now has is convincing developers who were already on the fence that they should take the plunge now rather than wait for what looks to be a clearly superior form factor. It’s not like customers (aside from those who already have the hardware) are beating down anyone’s door asking for the Vision Pro. This is very handwavy, but if Apple does intend to pursue the glasses form factor it would probably benefit them to do the very make the very un-apple move of articulating how investments into developing for Vision Pro will extend into glasses.

joshstrange 2y ago
> make the very un-apple move of articulating how investments into developing for Vision Pro will extend into glasses I doubt they will come out and say that specifically but they pushed ARKit and VRKit for year prior to the AVP.

butlike 2y ago

I don't know, I just tested the Meta Quest last night and at $300 it looked GOOD. Give it a few years and I bet they could get that level of fidelity into a glass frame @ ~$1000-1200

joshstrange 2y ago
Well the Meta Quest 2 starts $500 so I'm not sure if you were using a MQ2 or MQ3S (which has essentially the screens of the MQ2 from what I understand). I have tried the MQ2 (I own one) and I have tried the MQ3. The 3 is better but the resolution is still not great, the AVP was much better than either. I did like the color passthrough on the MQ3 (vs grayscale on the 2) but I wouldn't say any of it looked "GOOD", it was adequate but still too blurry. I think I'll end up getting a MQ3 eventually or maybe the next version at launch but I'm just not really drawn to VR. After the first few months of my MQ2 I lost interest and it's just collecting dust.
asadotzler 2y ago
No, they cannot. Completely different technology tracks with the goggles form factor a dead end and the glasses form factor a decade or two away from consumer costs.