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The article explicitly cites it in the second last paragraph. It was a bit more than political pressure, though: Huawei was added to the entity list and it woul

The article explicitly cites it in the second last paragraph. It was a bit more than political pressure, though: Huawei was added to the entity list and it would be a crime for US companies or citizens to do business with them.

MichaelZuo 2y ago
That’s clearly not the case though? A lot of Huawei gear is still installed and operating, as of today, in US telecom networks. Even the pentagon is contracting with many companies using Huawei gear.
- GTP 2y ago
  I guess it is a crime from the date they were added to the list, but not a crime to keep using devices purchased earlier.
- rickdeckard 2y ago
  Usage of their equipment is one thing, technology export to a blacklisted company is another. The telecom providers arguably put quite some pressure to maintain such a distinction, since they purchased and paid for said equipment. But for i.e. Google it would have been a crime to provide dedicated technology access (early-access code, Google Services, etc.) for Huawei to then integrate into their products.
  - fasa99 2y ago
    It's a real shame, such a phone would be a win-win as far as google's code containing all the NSA backdoors and such, and Huwai's hardware containing all the CSA's hardware backdoors and such. Imagine the cyberspace wars and battles being fought in that phone in your pocket.
- shrubble 2y ago
  They’re not supposed to be running it! There were specific orders to remove Huawei from the telecom network (but yeah they were not followed) in 2019.
  - llm_nerd 2y ago
    It's a pretty big operation to purge all of that legacy gear, so the government made a multi-billion dollar fund to support the removal over time, and I believe gave them until 2025 to finish the purge. And even that isn't exhaustive: They can still operate it after the deadline, they'll just be restricted from various government subsidies and programs. So the government didn't flip a switch and tell them to make it disappear. They expected it to be a staggered, eventual process.
addicted 2y ago
I may be misremembering but I thought Google kicked them out even before, primarily because Huawei wanted to have only Huawei services and not Google services, which goes against Google’s terms.
- Al-Khwarizmi 2y ago
  I don't think so. I bought a Huawei P30 Pro on release date (March 2019), it had (and still has) Google services. On May 2019 the US ban came, and from there on, new models had no Google services.

MichaelZuo 2y ago

That’s clearly not the case though? A lot of Huawei gear is still installed and operating, as of today, in US telecom networks. Even the pentagon is contracting with many companies using Huawei gear.

GTP 2y ago
I guess it is a crime from the date they were added to the list, but not a crime to keep using devices purchased earlier.
rickdeckard 2y ago
Usage of their equipment is one thing, technology export to a blacklisted company is another. The telecom providers arguably put quite some pressure to maintain such a distinction, since they purchased and paid for said equipment. But for i.e. Google it would have been a crime to provide dedicated technology access (early-access code, Google Services, etc.) for Huawei to then integrate into their products.
- fasa99 2y ago
  It's a real shame, such a phone would be a win-win as far as google's code containing all the NSA backdoors and such, and Huwai's hardware containing all the CSA's hardware backdoors and such. Imagine the cyberspace wars and battles being fought in that phone in your pocket.
shrubble 2y ago
They’re not supposed to be running it! There were specific orders to remove Huawei from the telecom network (but yeah they were not followed) in 2019.
- llm_nerd 2y ago
  It's a pretty big operation to purge all of that legacy gear, so the government made a multi-billion dollar fund to support the removal over time, and I believe gave them until 2025 to finish the purge. And even that isn't exhaustive: They can still operate it after the deadline, they'll just be restricted from various government subsidies and programs. So the government didn't flip a switch and tell them to make it disappear. They expected it to be a staggered, eventual process.

addicted 2y ago

I may be misremembering but I thought Google kicked them out even before, primarily because Huawei wanted to have only Huawei services and not Google services, which goes against Google’s terms.

Al-Khwarizmi 2y ago
I don't think so. I bought a Huawei P30 Pro on release date (March 2019), it had (and still has) Google services. On May 2019 the US ban came, and from there on, new models had no Google services.