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1080p looks different to 4k. Just because its 'plenty' doesn't mean 4k doesn't matter. And we are at 2024, i own a 4k lg oled display now for years. Why not le

1080p looks different to 4k. Just because its 'plenty' doesn't mean 4k doesn't matter. And we are at 2024, i own a 4k lg oled display now for years. Why not leverage it? Just because 1080p is 'plenty'?

OptionOfT 2y ago
The problem with 4k, which 99% of people only experience as a stream, is that it's over-compressed. A 1080p BluRay is 36 Mbit. Netflix 4k is 15 Mbit. So unless I see people mentioning the media, I am always weary of the comparison.
- nemomarx 2y ago
  Why stream when you can play files from a local media server? Cheaper and I'm sure the Mbit rate is better.
  - OptionOfT 2y ago
    Because the majority of people don't do that.
  - DrillShopper 2y ago
    Because you have to maintain that local media server and go through the process of adding in the media you want to see and removing media you are done with if the disk is full. As opposed to Netflix where you press a button and you're watching something. People out there aren't much like the people who post here - when they get home from their crappy job they hate, finally make dinner because they can't afford food delivery, kick off their shoes on the old couch they bought at a yard sale and turn on their 15 year old TV they want it to just work. They don't have the interest or energy to fuck around with things that many here find fun and interesting and exciting. This post is giving me major "why would you need Dropbox when you can rsync?" vibes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18255896 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18255896
- bloedsinnig 2y ago
  I have watched plenty of movies from a bluray. Nonetheless, i do think that compression from a high res source looks different / sharper.
aidenn0 2y ago
With approximately 90% of the HT setups[1] I have seen, I can downscale a 4k video to 1080p and have the owner of the HT setup not be able to successfully ABX the difference. 1: I'm using the term "HT setup" rather broadly, as the primary location in a residence for watching movies as a group; it includes e.g. people who don't own a TV and watch movies on their laptop sitting on a coffee table. Setups where the display covers over 40% of the FOV (where 4k definitely makes a difference) are somewhere in the top 5%.

OptionOfT 2y ago

The problem with 4k, which 99% of people only experience as a stream, is that it's over-compressed. A 1080p BluRay is 36 Mbit. Netflix 4k is 15 Mbit. So unless I see people mentioning the media, I am always weary of the comparison.

nemomarx 2y ago
Why stream when you can play files from a local media server? Cheaper and I'm sure the Mbit rate is better.
- OptionOfT 2y ago
  Because the majority of people don't do that.
- DrillShopper 2y ago
  Because you have to maintain that local media server and go through the process of adding in the media you want to see and removing media you are done with if the disk is full. As opposed to Netflix where you press a button and you're watching something. People out there aren't much like the people who post here - when they get home from their crappy job they hate, finally make dinner because they can't afford food delivery, kick off their shoes on the old couch they bought at a yard sale and turn on their 15 year old TV they want it to just work. They don't have the interest or energy to fuck around with things that many here find fun and interesting and exciting. This post is giving me major "why would you need Dropbox when you can rsync?" vibes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18255896 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18255896
bloedsinnig 2y ago
I have watched plenty of movies from a bluray. Nonetheless, i do think that compression from a high res source looks different / sharper.

aidenn0 2y ago

With approximately 90% of the HT setups[1] I have seen, I can downscale a 4k video to 1080p and have the owner of the HT setup not be able to successfully ABX the difference. 1: I'm using the term "HT setup" rather broadly, as the primary location in a residence for watching movies as a group; it includes e.g. people who don't own a TV and watch movies on their laptop sitting on a coffee table. Setups where the display covers over 40% of the FOV (where 4k definitely makes a difference) are somewhere in the top 5%.