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Apple has (to a first approximation) a royalty-free license to ARM IP by virtue of the fact that they co-founded ARM - so yes, Qualcomm is most likely paying AR

Apple has (to a first approximation) a royalty-free license to ARM IP by virtue of the fact that they co-founded ARM - so yes, Qualcomm is most likely paying ARM more than Apple is.

happymellon 2y ago
Just to clarify for those that don't know ARMs history, Acorn were building computers and designing CPUs before they spun out the CPU design portion. Apple did not help them design the CPU/Architecture, that was a decade of design and manufacturing already, they VC'ed the independence of the CPU. The staffing and knowledge came from Acorn.
- billti 2y ago
  > Apple did not help them design the CPU/Architecture I believe they had a big hand in ARM64. Though best reference I can find right now is this very site: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31368489 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31368489
  - happymellon 2y ago
    Oh, I was just wanting to clarify the "Apple co-founded". They had the Newton project, found ARM did a better job than the other options, but there were a few missing pieces. They funded the spun out project so they could throw ARM a few new requirements for the CPU design. As a "cofounder" of ARM, they didn't contribute technical experience and the architecture did already exist.
    - steeeeeve 2y ago
      Sigh. Newton. So far ahead of it's time.
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