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did banning plastic straws in a few US cities fix climate change and pollution? >The access Russia currently enjoys is the equivalent of Goebbels being allowed

did banning plastic straws in a few US cities fix climate change and pollution? >The access Russia currently enjoys is the equivalent of Goebbels being allowed to anonymously publish front-page editorials in the Times there's absolutely nothing you can do about this to prevent this. troll farms can afford residential VPNs and can network with the US/EU via neighboring neutral countries or their overseas agents. >while simultaneously contributing code to Bletchley Park co there's absolutely nothing you can do about this to prevent this. how do you know that John Johnson contributing code to some widely-used library is not Ivan Ivanson, a KGB sleeper agent? do you know John Johnson in person? does anyone else in your anonymous, informal, nebulous developer clique know any other contributor personally? are you sure that jkldjsafj, qweqweqwe and all the random anonymous guys with anime girl profile pictures who contribute code to a myriad projects are not Russian plants? >I would like to remind you of the recent XZ utils backdoor into SSH contributed by a less than friendly nation state. case in point to the above: no one fucking knows who did it. it could be Russia, it could be China, it could be Israel, it could be NSA/CIA.

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jiggawatts 2y ago
> there's absolutely nothing you can do about this to prevent this. Fibre can be cut. I know it's unpalatable, or somehow "an escalation", but when NATO started backing Ukraine and the US imposed sanctions on Russia, the logical move would have been to immediately sever all of their international network links. There's what, a few dozen fibre connections crossing their borders? The alternative is this: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/13/media/right-wing-media-influencers-tenet-russian-money/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/13/media/right-wing-media-in...
- 123yawaworht456 2y ago
  "an escalation" is a bit of an understatement if you try to cut the fiber connecting Russia and China. they also share a border with Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Mongolia. what the fuck are you going to do? do you people not understand how the Internet works? unless you isolate your network from all other networks, it is accessible from any other network.
  - jiggawatts 2y ago
    That’s fixable too. If the rest of the world drops all packets to or from Russian CIDR blocks, it doesn’t matter how many fibre links they still have lit up. Just a handful of public clouds and major CDNs dropping packets from Russian IPs would cut them off from almost all Internet services directly or indirectly. Good luck browsing web pages with cdnjs and the like just timing out for you! Russia can route to the rest of the Internet because they’re being allowed to in the same sense that they can sell oil and gas to Europe because Europeans are allowing them to.
    - 123yawaworht456 2y ago
      > If the rest of the world drops all packets to or from Russian CIDR blocks yes, okay, fine, go convince China to do just that
      - jiggawatts 2y ago
        Don’t need to convince everybody, just the majority.
hulitu 2y ago
> how do you know that John Johnson contributing code to some widely-used library is not Ivan Ivanson, a KGB sleeper agent? Because his name is "Jia Tan" so he must be chinese. /s

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jiggawatts 2y ago

> there's absolutely nothing you can do about this to prevent this. Fibre can be cut. I know it's unpalatable, or somehow "an escalation", but when NATO started backing Ukraine and the US imposed sanctions on Russia, the logical move would have been to immediately sever all of their international network links. There's what, a few dozen fibre connections crossing their borders? The alternative is this: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/13/media/right-wing-media-influencers-tenet-russian-money/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/13/media/right-wing-media-in...

123yawaworht456 2y ago
"an escalation" is a bit of an understatement if you try to cut the fiber connecting Russia and China. they also share a border with Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Mongolia. what the fuck are you going to do? do you people not understand how the Internet works? unless you isolate your network from all other networks, it is accessible from any other network.
- jiggawatts 2y ago
  That’s fixable too. If the rest of the world drops all packets to or from Russian CIDR blocks, it doesn’t matter how many fibre links they still have lit up. Just a handful of public clouds and major CDNs dropping packets from Russian IPs would cut them off from almost all Internet services directly or indirectly. Good luck browsing web pages with cdnjs and the like just timing out for you! Russia can route to the rest of the Internet because they’re being allowed to in the same sense that they can sell oil and gas to Europe because Europeans are allowing them to.
  - 123yawaworht456 2y ago
    > If the rest of the world drops all packets to or from Russian CIDR blocks yes, okay, fine, go convince China to do just that
    - jiggawatts 2y ago
      Don’t need to convince everybody, just the majority.

hulitu 2y ago

> how do you know that John Johnson contributing code to some widely-used library is not Ivan Ivanson, a KGB sleeper agent? Because his name is "Jia Tan" so he must be chinese. /s