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That's a lot more defensible: Ohtani doesn't run a company that spies on billions of people. Zuckerberg does.
by shiroiushi 2y ago
That's a lot more defensible: Ohtani doesn't run a company that spies on billions of people. Zuckerberg does.
- FredPret 2y ago[flagged]
- ceejayoz 2y agoFacebook has plenty of data on people who didn’t click “I agree”. Some appear in photos uploaded by others. Some are profiled by Facebook’s like buttons scattered everywhere. They can surveil you without a single visit to Facebook.com.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoFor more info, look up shadow profiles. Scary stuff.
- FredPret 2y ago[flagged]
- ceejayoz 2y agoThat’s a pretty big goalpost move.
- FredPret 2y ago[flagged]
- ceejayoz 2y agoFirst it was "it's not spying, you agreed to it!" When it's pointed out people surveilled by Facebook haven't necessarily agreed to any of it, the goalpost moved.
- FredPret 2y agoFair. But I think we score a goal for each of those posts. The vast majority of the data comes from users who did agree. The rest of the data, the portion the public didn’t agree to, is gathered in exactly the way that every other business has ever been able to do it when you go in public.
- eszed 2y ago> this is an unavoidable part of having public spaces in society. Maybe, maybe not. It is something new - within the last twenty years or so - to the concept of either "privacy" or "public space". Laws and norms and people's intuitions were formed in a different technological and informational context. If you have a positive case for why passive surveillance of everyone is harmless (or, indeed, beneficial) to society (as a whole, not only those who engage in it) then please make it. Assuming it must be harmless or good begs the question.
- Dalewyn 2y ago[flagged]
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