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National security (by identifying and processing rare earth metals and materials domestically) is vastly more important to society than a few dozen homes somewh

National security (by identifying and processing rare earth metals and materials domestically) is vastly more important to society than a few dozen homes somewhere.

ifdefdebug 2y ago
sure. just make sure to pay them what their land is worth... with the lithium below.
- jumploops 2y ago
  Do most residential land parcels include mining rights?
  - chx 2y ago
    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/who-owns-the-minerals-under-your-property.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/who-owns-the-mineral... > Mineral rights are automatically included as a part of the land in a property conveyance, unless and until the ownership gets separated at some point by an owner/seller. > Since sellers of land can convey only property that they own, each sale of the land after the minerals are separated automatically includes only the land. Deeds to the land made after the first separation of the minerals will not refer to the fact that the mineral rights are not included. > in most cases, you cannot determine whether you own the rights to the minerals under your land just by looking at your deed. Owners are sometimes surprised to find out someone else owns the rights to the minerals under their land > U.S. laws regulating mining and mineral rights typically prohibit mineral owners from damaging or interfering with the use of any homes or other improvements on the land when extracting minerals. As a result, mineral owners do not typically attempt mineral extraction in highly populated areas. This means that if you live in a city, or an area with many houses on small plots of land, you probably won't need to worry about whether or not you own any minerals that might be under you
  - lesuorac 2y ago
    idk, but if you're going to buy a house check if it's "Fee Simple" which does include mineral rights. https://www.rangerminerals.com/what-does-fee-simple-estate-ownership-mean/ https://www.rangerminerals.com/what-does-fee-simple-estate-o...
- ct0 2y ago
  Is there case law on how deep land goes? I could imagine that there will be in the near future.
  - engineer_22 2y ago
    Yes, mineral rights are well defined in US real property law.
walleeee 2y ago
Globally price-competitive domestic electric car production is a national security concern only if we are willing to accept a rather short time horizon and a rather narrow definition of security in our analysis. This kind of article can perhaps be understood as an attempt to turn a federal organization's sails into the prevailing political winds, so to speak, at a time when funding seems insecure. I say this as someone who strongly supports most of the survey's mission. It would be ideal if national power brokers recognized the value of water science, geology, ecology, etc, on their own terms.
FpUser 2y ago
And of course you would not mind owners of extraction company leaving all the profits to people who got kicked out of their home. After all they should be happy just fulfilling your "national security" goal.

National security (by identifying and processing rare earth metals and materials domestically) is vastly more important to society than a few dozen homes somewhere.

ifdefdebug 2y ago

sure. just make sure to pay them what their land is worth... with the lithium below.

jumploops 2y ago
Do most residential land parcels include mining rights?
- chx 2y ago
  https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/who-owns-the-minerals-under-your-property.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/who-owns-the-mineral... > Mineral rights are automatically included as a part of the land in a property conveyance, unless and until the ownership gets separated at some point by an owner/seller. > Since sellers of land can convey only property that they own, each sale of the land after the minerals are separated automatically includes only the land. Deeds to the land made after the first separation of the minerals will not refer to the fact that the mineral rights are not included. > in most cases, you cannot determine whether you own the rights to the minerals under your land just by looking at your deed. Owners are sometimes surprised to find out someone else owns the rights to the minerals under their land > U.S. laws regulating mining and mineral rights typically prohibit mineral owners from damaging or interfering with the use of any homes or other improvements on the land when extracting minerals. As a result, mineral owners do not typically attempt mineral extraction in highly populated areas. This means that if you live in a city, or an area with many houses on small plots of land, you probably won't need to worry about whether or not you own any minerals that might be under you
- lesuorac 2y ago
  idk, but if you're going to buy a house check if it's "Fee Simple" which does include mineral rights. https://www.rangerminerals.com/what-does-fee-simple-estate-ownership-mean/ https://www.rangerminerals.com/what-does-fee-simple-estate-o...
ct0 2y ago
Is there case law on how deep land goes? I could imagine that there will be in the near future.
- engineer_22 2y ago
  Yes, mineral rights are well defined in US real property law.

walleeee 2y ago

Globally price-competitive domestic electric car production is a national security concern only if we are willing to accept a rather short time horizon and a rather narrow definition of security in our analysis. This kind of article can perhaps be understood as an attempt to turn a federal organization's sails into the prevailing political winds, so to speak, at a time when funding seems insecure. I say this as someone who strongly supports most of the survey's mission. It would be ideal if national power brokers recognized the value of water science, geology, ecology, etc, on their own terms.

FpUser 2y ago

And of course you would not mind owners of extraction company leaving all the profits to people who got kicked out of their home. After all they should be happy just fulfilling your "national security" goal.