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Love to see a project that uses bog standard ML techniques and doesn't call them AI. Respect.

strbean 2y ago
Are we getting to the critical point where we declassify a bunch of stuff as AI? Used to be expert systems were considered AI. Now anything-not-an-LLM is going to stop being AI?
- lovich 2y ago
  That treadmills been going on for a long time. Didn’t OCR used to be classified as AI?
  - jpk 2y ago
    Yep, back when programming language syntax started trending toward more natural language, compiler development was considered AI research. Which makes sense, because in an era of assembly on punch cards, computers that could translate higher-level instructions that read more like English into machine code you used to have to write (or punch) by hand probably felt pretty intelligent.
bloopernova 2y ago
It's the new Hacking vs Cracking. Or calling any computer a PC.
- gowld 2y ago
  In this case it's Fracking
driggs 2y ago
Quoth the article: The USGS predictive model provides the first estimate of total lithium present in Smackover Formation brines in southern Arkansas, using machine learning, which is a type of artificial intelligence.
- janalsncm 2y ago
  I was disappointed in that line. They could’ve mentioned it used a random forest, which is much more informative. “ML is a type of AI” isn’t even a cocktail party understanding of the topic.
  - textlapse 2y ago
    For a layperson, this is an accessible and directionally correct definition. For the HN audience, of course this is 'technically incorrect'. The article was written for the (larger) general public. I am also glad they didn't squeeze in a word salad of LLMs and quantum technology and instead stuck to 'it's just standard ML'.
    - gowld 2y ago
      The only informational dividable from the statement is "we used a computer to analyze data".
ImHereToVote 2y ago
Nothing bog standard about contemporary ML. If anything calling it AI is underselling it. This is what it was called back in the day. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02478259 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02478259
janalsncm 2y ago
When the tide goes out on the AI hype there’s going to be a lot of companies currently using expensive API calls for simple classification tasks that will be quietly revamped to use a simple CNN. ML is a toolbox of methods. Not every problem needs a transformer.
- cmrdporcupine 2y ago
  > Not every problem needs a transformer. They do if they want to get the intention of a Venture Capitalist!
  - janalsncm 2y ago
    Venture Capitalist Attention Is All You Need!
Tagbert 2y ago
ML is one particular field in the overall area of AI.
- nativeit 2y ago
  Isn’t it a critical component of everything currently sporting anything remotely close to a legit “AI” label? I wouldn’t call cows “one part of a broader beef ecosystem” for example. They’re fundamental to it.
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Are we getting to the critical point where we declassify a bunch of stuff as AI? Used to be expert systems were considered AI. Now anything-not-an-LLM is going to stop being AI?

lovich 2y ago
That treadmills been going on for a long time. Didn’t OCR used to be classified as AI?
- jpk 2y ago
  Yep, back when programming language syntax started trending toward more natural language, compiler development was considered AI research. Which makes sense, because in an era of assembly on punch cards, computers that could translate higher-level instructions that read more like English into machine code you used to have to write (or punch) by hand probably felt pretty intelligent.

bloopernova 2y ago

It's the new Hacking vs Cracking. Or calling any computer a PC.

gowld 2y ago
In this case it's Fracking

driggs 2y ago

Quoth the article: The USGS predictive model provides the first estimate of total lithium present in Smackover Formation brines in southern Arkansas, using machine learning, which is a type of artificial intelligence.

janalsncm 2y ago
I was disappointed in that line. They could’ve mentioned it used a random forest, which is much more informative. “ML is a type of AI” isn’t even a cocktail party understanding of the topic.
- textlapse 2y ago
  For a layperson, this is an accessible and directionally correct definition. For the HN audience, of course this is 'technically incorrect'. The article was written for the (larger) general public. I am also glad they didn't squeeze in a word salad of LLMs and quantum technology and instead stuck to 'it's just standard ML'.
  - gowld 2y ago
    The only informational dividable from the statement is "we used a computer to analyze data".

ImHereToVote 2y ago

Nothing bog standard about contemporary ML. If anything calling it AI is underselling it. This is what it was called back in the day. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02478259 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02478259

janalsncm 2y ago

When the tide goes out on the AI hype there’s going to be a lot of companies currently using expensive API calls for simple classification tasks that will be quietly revamped to use a simple CNN. ML is a toolbox of methods. Not every problem needs a transformer.

cmrdporcupine 2y ago
> Not every problem needs a transformer. They do if they want to get the intention of a Venture Capitalist!
- janalsncm 2y ago
  Venture Capitalist Attention Is All You Need!

Tagbert 2y ago

ML is one particular field in the overall area of AI.

nativeit 2y ago
Isn’t it a critical component of everything currently sporting anything remotely close to a legit “AI” label? I wouldn’t call cows “one part of a broader beef ecosystem” for example. They’re fundamental to it.

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