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There's also the option of spending around $35k to purchase a Japanese business and use that to get an investor visa.
by fxtentacle 2y ago
There's also the option of spending around $35k to purchase a Japanese business and use that to get an investor visa.
- Klonoar 2y agoThere's a world of difference in the level of effort between this and the digital nomad visa.
- hardwaresofton 2y agoAnd a world of difference in stability and perception. If you have $35k+ to dedicate to this (and note that it does not cost $35k, these are more like initial capital requirements), you should 100% go the investor route. People underweight how amazing it is to be able to pay less than $50k for the equivalent of a golden visa to a top 5 GDP nation that is well regarded, safe, has some opportunity and is generally easy to live in.
- csomar 2y agoThe golden visas usually have no strings attached. I am not sure about this particular visa but last time I checked Japan they demand that you have a certain amount of activity on the company to keep your residence.
- Klonoar 2y agoEh, I ran a business in Japan and have had that visa. I still tell most people who just want to dip their feet in that the digital nomad visa is totally fine and a good way to go. That stability and perception only matters if you _truly_ want to live here, and quite a number of people spend ~3 months here [1] and realize that it's got issues past the honeymoon period (like anywhere else). There's also no reason you can't change your visa type if you find you actually like it after the DN trip. [1] "here" because I'm back in Japan for a few weeks for friends at the moment, but you get the idea
- gwervc 2y agoYes, you run the company. IIRC the visa is about management not investment and the company is expected to be profitable for the visa to be renewed. That's quite a different bunch of requirements than just buying a visa and sleeping on it.
- internet101010 2y agoWhile this is purely anecdotal, the friends I have that ended up bailing earlier than planned got really annoyed by nonsensical things like ATMs having operating hours and having to use a fax machine to do something. They probably weren't the main problem but more straw that broke the camel's back.
- n_ary 2y agoNot sure if you are aware, but you described Germany as well. ;)
- themaninthedark 2y agoThe ATM working hours can be annoying but honestly I understand the reasoning, it's to prevent drunk guys from being taken advantage of or threatened into making withdraws. Other than those who have built up Japan as a magical place in their head and are inevitably disappointed that it fails to match, I think that the reason that people end up bailing out of any country is one where they are unable to adapt to a culture and it's nuances. Most people would get annoyed when you have to take a document to city hall, get it stamped at one desk thane take it 5 desks over for the stamp there as well. Or you can try and understand why their workflow may be this way. Or just not care. If you are the kind of person who gets annoyed, then you will end up leaving.
- afavour 2y agoThey’re just totally different scenarios. Someone looking at a digital nomad visa isn’t looking to stay somewhere in the long term.
- KennyBlanken 2y ago> People underweight how amazing it is to be able to pay less than $50k for the equivalent of a golden visa to a top 5 GDP nation that is well regarded, safe, has some opportunity and is generally easy to live in. The Japanese are incredibly racist and xenophobic. Numerous businesses outright place signs barring foreigners (particularly russians, chinese, etc) Japanese citizens are almost always completely trusted by police over anyone, say, white or black. So Japanese who want to fuck with someone will bait them into a confrontation (or just outright lie) so they're arrested - and Japan has a nearly 100% conviction rate, with the worst prison conditions in the developed world.
- therein 2y agoI am glad they prioritize and look out for their own. That's how it should be. Not everywhere needs to be in love with globalism. And yes, I would say the same should be the case in other places as well.
- franciscop 2y agoSome of those assertions are true, some half true, and some are twisting the truth so much that I'd like to note (been living here for 7+ years): - The Japanese are incredibly racist and xenophobic Half true, some Japanese are those, but not all and "incredibly" is stretching it a lot (also, it's not good to generalize a negative trait to a whole country, I wonder what that's called). There's also famously a lot of "positive racism" towards Westerners. - Numerous businesses outright place signs barring foreigners There's been a handful of places in a country with 120M people, and each and every one of those has made the news, exactly because of how rare they are! - Japanese citizens are almost always completely trusted by police over anyone, say, white or black. Sure, this is true. - So Japanese who want to fuck with someone will bait them into a confrontation (or just outright lie) so they're arrested. While I don't have any number against it, this feels like such an incredibly bizarre event that I'd like to ask for some sources since it sounds very unbelievable given my personal experiences. - Japan has a nearly 100% conviction rate Absolutely not true in that this statement is grossly misconstruing a narrative of "arrested => 100% convicted". ONCE the police decide to pursue a matter, then it's true, but they only do so with incredibly strong evidence. See wikipedias' notes: "If measured in the same way, the United States' federal conviction rate would be 99.8%." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#Japan - With the worst prison conditions in the developed world Fairly true, if we consider only the handful of countries that can be called "the developed world".