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The longest drive from within Arkansas to an out of state abortion clinic is about five hours. There is no place to live without compromises. I'm in a state wit

The longest drive from within Arkansas to an out of state abortion clinic is about five hours. There is no place to live without compromises. I'm in a state with free choice and the nearest to me is a three hour drive. My distance to access is greater than 90% of the population of Arkansas. I can understand not wanting to live there due to that policy on principle but not on practicality.

zippothrowaway 2y ago
And what if it's an emergency? Some compromises are not worth making when it could kill you. Note this law is actually working as designed - they want pro-choice people to leave their state so they can entrench their power there.
- delichon 2y ago
  Here's the first sentence of the law: (a) A person shall not purposely perform or attempt to perform an abortion except to save the life of a pregnant woman in a medical emergency. https://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/title-5/subtitle-6/chapter-61/subchapter-3/section-5-61-304/ https://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/title-5/subtitle-6/cha...
  - sys_64738 2y ago
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    - roarkeful 2y ago
      Thanks, appreciate being called a garbage person. Have you considered having empathy for people with different views than you?
      - roughly 2y ago
        > Have you considered having empathy for people with different views than you? This is an interesting response in a thread defending an abortion ban.
      - sys_64738 2y ago
        > Have you considered having empathy for people with different views than you? No. On this topic I don't give a damn about people who have the wrong point of view.
      - Asparagirl 2y ago
        Have they turned those squishy-sounding different views into horrifically inhumane absolute laws that affect every female person in the state, passing through the state, or considering taking a job (or keeping an existing job) in the state?
  - ouddv 2y ago
    We get it: YOU ARE DISHONEST. That shit means, in practice, that if you're in bad shape and will obviously need an abortion; the hospital will wait until you are nearly dead before they perform it. It happens every day, and vile, dishonest, woman-hating pieces of shit like you lie lie lie to defend it.
  - ouddv 2y ago
    Here is an example of the deaths that dishonest, woman hating, authoritarians like you promote: https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-... I know you won’t care, because you’re a worthless monster. But just a reminder that you are, in fact, a horrible person who deserves a horrible life.
almostgotcaught 2y ago
> The longest drive from within Arkansas to an out of state abortion clinic is about five hours. Arkansas isn't so bad because I can drive 300 miles to a different state if I need medical care. Ok. > There is no place to live without compromises. Sure but calling an abortion ban a compromise is like calling a nuclear warhead a nonlethal weapon.
- ouddv 2y ago
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- protonbob 2y ago
  Do you fail to see the irony in comparing abortion to a weapon and not meaning the actual killing of the fetus? (Abortions to save the life of the mother are a very small percentage of abortions)
  - almostgotcaught 2y ago
    do you really think people are falling for this? especially on this forum?
- marcuskane2 2y ago
  You can get medical care there. You just can't end the life of a baby, unless the mother's life is in danger.
  - Asparagirl 2y ago
    Words mean things, and the four-week fetus of a raped eleven-year-old is not a “baby”. Medical care to terminate that pregnancy and that fetus is literally medical care — and is illegal in Arkansas.
    - CapricornNoble 2y ago
      I haven't done a deep-dive on this subject, but it appears adolescents under 15 are 0.2% of US abortions according to the CDC.[1] So raped children needing medical interventions is some sub-fraction of 0.2%, which is less than 1,200 abortion across the entire country. It seems like such an extreme edge case that it is highly irrational to tar the adults of the entire state of Alabama as "garbage people" over these highly irregular scenarios. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/ss/ss7209a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/ss/ss7209a1.htm
ouddv 2y ago
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zippothrowaway 2y ago

And what if it's an emergency? Some compromises are not worth making when it could kill you. Note this law is actually working as designed - they want pro-choice people to leave their state so they can entrench their power there.

delichon 2y ago
Here's the first sentence of the law: (a) A person shall not purposely perform or attempt to perform an abortion except to save the life of a pregnant woman in a medical emergency. https://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/title-5/subtitle-6/chapter-61/subchapter-3/section-5-61-304/ https://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/title-5/subtitle-6/cha...
- sys_64738 2y ago
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  - roarkeful 2y ago
    Thanks, appreciate being called a garbage person. Have you considered having empathy for people with different views than you?
    - roughly 2y ago
      > Have you considered having empathy for people with different views than you? This is an interesting response in a thread defending an abortion ban.
    - sys_64738 2y ago
      > Have you considered having empathy for people with different views than you? No. On this topic I don't give a damn about people who have the wrong point of view.
    - Asparagirl 2y ago
      Have they turned those squishy-sounding different views into horrifically inhumane absolute laws that affect every female person in the state, passing through the state, or considering taking a job (or keeping an existing job) in the state?
- ouddv 2y ago
  We get it: YOU ARE DISHONEST. That shit means, in practice, that if you're in bad shape and will obviously need an abortion; the hospital will wait until you are nearly dead before they perform it. It happens every day, and vile, dishonest, woman-hating pieces of shit like you lie lie lie to defend it.
- ouddv 2y ago
  Here is an example of the deaths that dishonest, woman hating, authoritarians like you promote: https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-... I know you won’t care, because you’re a worthless monster. But just a reminder that you are, in fact, a horrible person who deserves a horrible life.

almostgotcaught 2y ago

> The longest drive from within Arkansas to an out of state abortion clinic is about five hours. Arkansas isn't so bad because I can drive 300 miles to a different state if I need medical care. Ok. > There is no place to live without compromises. Sure but calling an abortion ban a compromise is like calling a nuclear warhead a nonlethal weapon.

ouddv 2y ago
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protonbob 2y ago
Do you fail to see the irony in comparing abortion to a weapon and not meaning the actual killing of the fetus? (Abortions to save the life of the mother are a very small percentage of abortions)
- almostgotcaught 2y ago
  do you really think people are falling for this? especially on this forum?
marcuskane2 2y ago
You can get medical care there. You just can't end the life of a baby, unless the mother's life is in danger.
- Asparagirl 2y ago
  Words mean things, and the four-week fetus of a raped eleven-year-old is not a “baby”. Medical care to terminate that pregnancy and that fetus is literally medical care — and is illegal in Arkansas.
  - CapricornNoble 2y ago
    I haven't done a deep-dive on this subject, but it appears adolescents under 15 are 0.2% of US abortions according to the CDC.[1] So raped children needing medical interventions is some sub-fraction of 0.2%, which is less than 1,200 abortion across the entire country. It seems like such an extreme edge case that it is highly irrational to tar the adults of the entire state of Alabama as "garbage people" over these highly irregular scenarios. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/ss/ss7209a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/ss/ss7209a1.htm

ouddv 2y ago

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