> The ACM canceled its involvement for excellent reasons which are worth reading Interesting, thanks for the hint; the paper is from 2000 though, and as it see

> The ACM canceled its involvement for excellent reasons which are worth reading Interesting, thanks for the hint; the paper is from 2000 though, and as it seems it would need an update; just checked e.g. the "roles" point and it seems there were significant changes. I also think ACM has rather different goals than IEEE. > It's probably also worth reading Dijkstra's assessment of the "software engineering" field Well, was there anything or anyone that Dijkstra didn't rant about ;-)