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??? Who's talking about that?

by moralestapia 2y ago

whimsicalism 2y ago
why would it be illegal?
- moralestapia 2y ago
  Generally, you cannot just record people without their consent; but this also largely depends on the jurisdiction/situation. Almost nowhere (or actually nowhere?) are you allowed to set up a surveillance device into a space that is not public and it is not owned by you.
  - packetlost 2y ago
    Public university labs are generally public as they're state property (in this particular case, UW Madison is a public state University). Further, recording video or pictures of people in public places is broadly legal in the US. There are only "presumption of privacy" restrictions which apply to places such as bathrooms and private property that is not visible from a public location (ex. a sidewalk). Obv. IANAL and this is not legal advice.
    - moralestapia 2y ago
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      - exe34 2y ago
        what do you think public mean, they have to belong to Mr. P. Ublic?
      - jrflowers 2y ago
        This reasoning makes sense. Roads and parks aren’t public, as they are city property. “Public” is only when something has no legal owner, like the moon and stars, or love.
      - icehawk 2y ago
        And thus they'd fall under the legal definition of public: "Under the authority of the government or belonging and available to the people." or "of or relating to a government"
    - almostgotcaught 2y ago
      By this logic the dorm room bathrooms at public universities are also public and I should be able to setup cameras /s
      - ozzmotik 2y ago
        just for the sake of conversation… if you did, where would you have set them up at anyway? Asking for a friend
  - samatman 2y ago
    Generally, in the United States, you can, in fact, just record people. Legally speaking, that is, which doesn't make it a polite or cool thing to do. Necessarily. If you're on someone else's property, they can of course set any number of rules, and trespass those who break those rules. But even there, recording people, if against the rules, is still not a crime. The crime is trespass, if this journalist we're speaking of sticks around after being trespassed off the property.
    - moralestapia 2y ago
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??? Who's talking about that?

whimsicalism 2y ago

why would it be illegal?

moralestapia 2y ago
Generally, you cannot just record people without their consent; but this also largely depends on the jurisdiction/situation. Almost nowhere (or actually nowhere?) are you allowed to set up a surveillance device into a space that is not public and it is not owned by you.
- packetlost 2y ago
  Public university labs are generally public as they're state property (in this particular case, UW Madison is a public state University). Further, recording video or pictures of people in public places is broadly legal in the US. There are only "presumption of privacy" restrictions which apply to places such as bathrooms and private property that is not visible from a public location (ex. a sidewalk). Obv. IANAL and this is not legal advice.
  - moralestapia 2y ago
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    - exe34 2y ago
      what do you think public mean, they have to belong to Mr. P. Ublic?
    - jrflowers 2y ago
      This reasoning makes sense. Roads and parks aren’t public, as they are city property. “Public” is only when something has no legal owner, like the moon and stars, or love.
    - icehawk 2y ago
      And thus they'd fall under the legal definition of public: "Under the authority of the government or belonging and available to the people." or "of or relating to a government"
  - almostgotcaught 2y ago
    By this logic the dorm room bathrooms at public universities are also public and I should be able to setup cameras /s
    - ozzmotik 2y ago
      just for the sake of conversation… if you did, where would you have set them up at anyway? Asking for a friend
- samatman 2y ago
  Generally, in the United States, you can, in fact, just record people. Legally speaking, that is, which doesn't make it a polite or cool thing to do. Necessarily. If you're on someone else's property, they can of course set any number of rules, and trespass those who break those rules. But even there, recording people, if against the rules, is still not a crime. The crime is trespass, if this journalist we're speaking of sticks around after being trespassed off the property.
  - moralestapia 2y ago
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