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You need to establish that it's a lie first, and to do that you need evidence.

micromacrofoot 2y ago
conveniently zip recruiter's data is proprietary again, believe who you want... but it's a little funny to blindly believe a company incentivized to lie to you more than any other random anecdote we're on equal footing in terms of evidence (I can build a fake chart based on my own data if you'd be more likely to believe that) and I have less of a financial incentive to lie to you
- CyberDildonics 2y ago
  Do you seriously think that you stating an claim (which doesn't even really make sense) is evidence? Do you actually not know what evidence is? Evidence is actual information gathered up from where it was created. Evidence is not you giving an opinion out of frustration because you want other people to agree that 'remote workers are inflating real estate prices'. https://www.zippia.com/remote-careers-2069923/salary/ https://www.zippia.com/remote-careers-2069923/salary/ https://www.flexjobs.com/blog/post/common-remote-jobs-how-much-they-pay/ https://www.flexjobs.com/blog/post/common-remote-jobs-how-mu... https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/27/remote-workers-get-up-to-30percent-pay-increase-for-switching-to-in-office-jobs-says-new-research.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/27/remote-workers-get-up-to-30p... You have no numbers and no information. You aren't even explaining where you are getting your ideas and how you came to your own conclusion. All you did was state something and start calling it the truth, then you can't believe that someone would contradict it with real sourced data.
  - micromacrofoot 2y ago
    again, you're falling for the assumption that proprietary corporate data is fact — the CNBC article you cite also cites zip recruiter and you couldn't audit that data if you wanted to... I'm doing the exact same thing zip recruiter is and you can't prove otherwise, you are providing me with 0 data that can be independently verified... you can't even look up their methodologies
    - CyberDildonics 2y ago
      You made the claims in the first place that "the people able to work from home are often incredibly well paid and are eating up real estate in expensive areas" so lets see your "independently verified auditable data".
      - micromacrofoot 2y ago
        I don't have any, but the lack of that data doesn't do anything to validate zip recruiter's — in other words, a bad source isn't better than no source
        CyberDildonics 2y ago
        You made a claim without evidence, now you say all the links I gave you are bad and all the data is bad. Somehow not only ziprecruiter is wrong, but flexjobs and zippia are wrong. These are just more claims without evidence. You saying something doesn't make it true. I almost admire the confidence to blindly make a claim without any data or evidence and then to claim again without evidence that the actual data is somehow a lie. No explanation on anything, just a claim over and over.
        micromacrofoot 2y ago
        you are making blind claims with made up unverifiable data, you're being tricked if it were actual data you could show me tabulation, not some blog post graphic made for marketing purposes this is a major lack of media literacy on display
        CyberDildonics 2y ago
        you are making blind claims You made the claim. Your claim had no evidence. You made a 'blind claim'. with made up unverifiable data Prove it. you're being tricked Tricked by data from multiple different sources? Prove it. you could show me tabulation Go ahead and show me that. this is a major lack of media literacy on display You literally don't understand the difference between information and you stating something you want people to agree with. That's not even just a 'media literacy' problem you're having, it's wishful religious thinking. I'm always fascinated when someone refuses to even explain why they think what they are saying is true, and not only does actual data and evidence not change their mind, they refuse to believe it, but can't even explain why they don't believe it. Just admit to yourself that what you are saying is not based on reality, it's just something you want other people to agree with.

conveniently zip recruiter's data is proprietary again, believe who you want... but it's a little funny to blindly believe a company incentivized to lie to you more than any other random anecdote we're on equal footing in terms of evidence (I can build a fake chart based on my own data if you'd be more likely to believe that) and I have less of a financial incentive to lie to you

CyberDildonics 2y ago
Do you seriously think that you stating an claim (which doesn't even really make sense) is evidence? Do you actually not know what evidence is? Evidence is actual information gathered up from where it was created. Evidence is not you giving an opinion out of frustration because you want other people to agree that 'remote workers are inflating real estate prices'. https://www.zippia.com/remote-careers-2069923/salary/ https://www.zippia.com/remote-careers-2069923/salary/ https://www.flexjobs.com/blog/post/common-remote-jobs-how-much-they-pay/ https://www.flexjobs.com/blog/post/common-remote-jobs-how-mu... https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/27/remote-workers-get-up-to-30percent-pay-increase-for-switching-to-in-office-jobs-says-new-research.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/27/remote-workers-get-up-to-30p... You have no numbers and no information. You aren't even explaining where you are getting your ideas and how you came to your own conclusion. All you did was state something and start calling it the truth, then you can't believe that someone would contradict it with real sourced data.
- micromacrofoot 2y ago
  again, you're falling for the assumption that proprietary corporate data is fact — the CNBC article you cite also cites zip recruiter and you couldn't audit that data if you wanted to... I'm doing the exact same thing zip recruiter is and you can't prove otherwise, you are providing me with 0 data that can be independently verified... you can't even look up their methodologies
  - CyberDildonics 2y ago
    You made the claims in the first place that "the people able to work from home are often incredibly well paid and are eating up real estate in expensive areas" so lets see your "independently verified auditable data".
    - micromacrofoot 2y ago
      I don't have any, but the lack of that data doesn't do anything to validate zip recruiter's — in other words, a bad source isn't better than no source
      - CyberDildonics 2y ago
        You made a claim without evidence, now you say all the links I gave you are bad and all the data is bad. Somehow not only ziprecruiter is wrong, but flexjobs and zippia are wrong. These are just more claims without evidence. You saying something doesn't make it true. I almost admire the confidence to blindly make a claim without any data or evidence and then to claim again without evidence that the actual data is somehow a lie. No explanation on anything, just a claim over and over.
        micromacrofoot 2y ago
        you are making blind claims with made up unverifiable data, you're being tricked if it were actual data you could show me tabulation, not some blog post graphic made for marketing purposes this is a major lack of media literacy on display
        CyberDildonics 2y ago
        you are making blind claims You made the claim. Your claim had no evidence. You made a 'blind claim'. with made up unverifiable data Prove it. you're being tricked Tricked by data from multiple different sources? Prove it. you could show me tabulation Go ahead and show me that. this is a major lack of media literacy on display You literally don't understand the difference between information and you stating something you want people to agree with. That's not even just a 'media literacy' problem you're having, it's wishful religious thinking. I'm always fascinated when someone refuses to even explain why they think what they are saying is true, and not only does actual data and evidence not change their mind, they refuse to believe it, but can't even explain why they don't believe it. Just admit to yourself that what you are saying is not based on reality, it's just something you want other people to agree with.