> Anti-breakup effectively becomes anti-transparency and pro-abuse. If there is no communal support or watchfulness, then I guess those things are more likely,

> Anti-breakup effectively becomes anti-transparency and pro-abuse. If there is no communal support or watchfulness, then I guess those things are more likely, yes. Communities should help prevent abusive people from isolating their partners. I guess you would argue that the reality will always fall short of that and that communities can never be good enough. > So win-win. I'm not so sure it's necessarily a win for the kids. I guess the main problem that you're not addressing is the possible lack of sustainability. Women do have a time limit if they want children, and of course there is personal freedom and all that, but if a culture that pushes personal freedom doesn't reproduce enough to replace itself then it may eventually be outbred by cultures that are less interested in personal freedom (e.g. their women might be forced to have more kids).