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Just judging by the deteriorating state of the Windows OS... I know these are different divisions, but it does say something about the culture. Windows has alw

Just judging by the deteriorating state of the Windows OS... I know these are different divisions, but it does say something about the culture. Windows has always been a dumpster fire, but when it was built by nerds and not managers, it felt more, uh, tolerable.

phkahler 2y ago
>> Windows has always been a dumpster fire.. It was always a dumpster fire for security, but it did have a pretty good UI and functionality at say XP-SP3, but now the UX had been thrown on the fire too.
- renegade-otter 2y ago
  I remember enjoying using Windows 2000/XP but I feel like that's my nostalgia talking. I was customizing a new installation for days, messing with registry keys and obscure settings dialogs. It was never that user-friendly to begin with. After having used MacOS for the last few years, I do not miss the hassle. To be fair, not a lot of things were user-friendly back then, and Windows was the standard consumer OS for a good reason. It was solidly OKAY. Using the latest versions of Windows, however, is just infuriating even without any complicated setup.
  - Gud 2y ago
    Absolutely not your nostalgia talking. I’m as OS agnostic as they come and Win2k was the last true great desktop OS. I now use FreeBSD almost exclusively, with miscellaneous VM guests.
    - bbkane 2y ago
      I actually REALLY LIKE MacOS, especially workspace/window management when using Rectangles. So much so that I'm trying to recreate it on Linux (I don't want to buy a new Mac when I have a perfectly good gaming desktop to repurpose for dev work).
      - Gud 2y ago
        MacOS is pretty good, can’t argue with you there.
    - eitally 2y ago
      I grew up with an Apple II, then switched to Windows from 3.11 for Workgroups all the way up to Vista, at which point I switched to desktop Linux (variety of distros, but mostly ended up on Kubuntu in my house and Mint for family). Then it was 8 years of ChromeOS. The past couple of years I've been on MacBooks and, although there are quirks I don't really like, I can't argue with the fact that it mostly "just works", which is really the primary requirement of any operating system.
      - Gud 2y ago
        Still, I would say peak Win2k was faster, cleaner and more no nonsense than modern MacOS. I use macs as well, they are not at all as snappy as windows 2000 was.
rightbyte 2y ago
> but when it was built by nerds and not managers, it felt more, uh, tolerable. The 'WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN' era. Ye. Way more relatable than todays malware riddled joke of an OS. It is too bad since the Windows 7 foundation seems OK.

phkahler 2y ago

>> Windows has always been a dumpster fire.. It was always a dumpster fire for security, but it did have a pretty good UI and functionality at say XP-SP3, but now the UX had been thrown on the fire too.

renegade-otter 2y ago
I remember enjoying using Windows 2000/XP but I feel like that's my nostalgia talking. I was customizing a new installation for days, messing with registry keys and obscure settings dialogs. It was never that user-friendly to begin with. After having used MacOS for the last few years, I do not miss the hassle. To be fair, not a lot of things were user-friendly back then, and Windows was the standard consumer OS for a good reason. It was solidly OKAY. Using the latest versions of Windows, however, is just infuriating even without any complicated setup.
- Gud 2y ago
  Absolutely not your nostalgia talking. I’m as OS agnostic as they come and Win2k was the last true great desktop OS. I now use FreeBSD almost exclusively, with miscellaneous VM guests.
  - bbkane 2y ago
    I actually REALLY LIKE MacOS, especially workspace/window management when using Rectangles. So much so that I'm trying to recreate it on Linux (I don't want to buy a new Mac when I have a perfectly good gaming desktop to repurpose for dev work).
    - Gud 2y ago
      MacOS is pretty good, can’t argue with you there.
  - eitally 2y ago
    I grew up with an Apple II, then switched to Windows from 3.11 for Workgroups all the way up to Vista, at which point I switched to desktop Linux (variety of distros, but mostly ended up on Kubuntu in my house and Mint for family). Then it was 8 years of ChromeOS. The past couple of years I've been on MacBooks and, although there are quirks I don't really like, I can't argue with the fact that it mostly "just works", which is really the primary requirement of any operating system.
    - Gud 2y ago
      Still, I would say peak Win2k was faster, cleaner and more no nonsense than modern MacOS. I use macs as well, they are not at all as snappy as windows 2000 was.

rightbyte 2y ago

> but when it was built by nerds and not managers, it felt more, uh, tolerable. The 'WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN' era. Ye. Way more relatable than todays malware riddled joke of an OS. It is too bad since the Windows 7 foundation seems OK.