> "pro" updates (which I don't get the backlash about.) Waving a security update in my face on the premise that I'll pay them more is rather unacceptable. That

> "pro" updates (which I don't get the backlash about.) Waving a security update in my face on the premise that I'll pay them more is rather unacceptable. That said, I wish Ubuntu all the best... in the meantime, I'm considering switching to debian for my cloud stuff, hopefully Trixie comes out in decent shape next year...