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Nearly every entry in the library has a torrent file (which is a distributed storage system), but with the index pages down, they're not accessible.

HappMacDonald 2y ago
They're not using DHT?
- jdiff 2y ago
  They're not talking about peer discovery, they're talking about .torrent file discovery.
highwaylights 2y ago
You're correct, but even then you've still the problem of storage - the torrents are only useful (and there's a lot of them) if a sustainable number of seeds remain available.
- Wheatman 2y ago
  How abiut torrenting a collection of websites in one collection? You can distribute less popular websites with more used ones to avoid losing it? And Torrents are good with transfering large files in my experience.
  - baby_souffle 2y ago
    > You can distribute less popular websites with more used ones to avoid losing it? So long as this distributed protocol has the concept of individual files, there _will_ be clients out there that allow the user to select `popular-site.archive.tar.gz` and not `less-popular.tar.gz` for download. And what one person doesn't download... they can't seed back. Distributed stuff is really good for low cost, high scale distribution of in-demand content. It's _terrible_ for long term reliability/availability, though.
    - armada651 2y ago
      That is fundamentally the problem, no one wants to donate storage to host stuff they're not interested in.
      - mrguyorama 2y ago
        More concretely, nobody wants to donate anything. They just want it to exist. Charity has never been a functional solution to normal coordination problems. We have centuries of evidence of this.
johnisgood 2y ago
If we want it to be distributed across laymen, we need something easier than opening torrent files (or inputting magnet URI) over a thousand times. Perhaps https://github.com/ipfs/in-web-browsers https://github.com/ipfs/in-web-browsers?
bastawhiz 2y ago
I can hardly find a healthy torrent for an obscure feature film that I care about. How am I supposed to find a healthy torrent for a random web page from the aughts?
- anacrolix 2y ago
  https://coveapp.info https://coveapp.info
sumtechguy 2y ago
The problem with their torrents is they are usually broken. Lots of complaints on them being broken. But no one fixing it.
giancarlostoro 2y ago
Maybe there needs to be a torrentable offline-first HTML file (only goes online to tell you if there's a new torrent whatsoever with more files), that lets you look through for more torrents (Magnet links are really tiny). I miss when TPB used to have a CSV of all their magnet links, their new UI is trash. I can't even find anything like the old days, pretty much TPB is a dying old relic.
Capricorn2481 2y ago
It's not abnormal for their torrents to be missing most of their direct downloads on the same page

HappMacDonald 2y ago

They're not using DHT?

jdiff 2y ago
They're not talking about peer discovery, they're talking about .torrent file discovery.

highwaylights 2y ago

You're correct, but even then you've still the problem of storage - the torrents are only useful (and there's a lot of them) if a sustainable number of seeds remain available.

Wheatman 2y ago
How abiut torrenting a collection of websites in one collection? You can distribute less popular websites with more used ones to avoid losing it? And Torrents are good with transfering large files in my experience.
- baby_souffle 2y ago
  > You can distribute less popular websites with more used ones to avoid losing it? So long as this distributed protocol has the concept of individual files, there _will_ be clients out there that allow the user to select `popular-site.archive.tar.gz` and not `less-popular.tar.gz` for download. And what one person doesn't download... they can't seed back. Distributed stuff is really good for low cost, high scale distribution of in-demand content. It's _terrible_ for long term reliability/availability, though.
  - armada651 2y ago
    That is fundamentally the problem, no one wants to donate storage to host stuff they're not interested in.
    - mrguyorama 2y ago
      More concretely, nobody wants to donate anything. They just want it to exist. Charity has never been a functional solution to normal coordination problems. We have centuries of evidence of this.

johnisgood 2y ago

If we want it to be distributed across laymen, we need something easier than opening torrent files (or inputting magnet URI) over a thousand times. Perhaps https://github.com/ipfs/in-web-browsers https://github.com/ipfs/in-web-browsers?

bastawhiz 2y ago

I can hardly find a healthy torrent for an obscure feature film that I care about. How am I supposed to find a healthy torrent for a random web page from the aughts?

anacrolix 2y ago
https://coveapp.info https://coveapp.info

sumtechguy 2y ago

The problem with their torrents is they are usually broken. Lots of complaints on them being broken. But no one fixing it.

giancarlostoro 2y ago

Maybe there needs to be a torrentable offline-first HTML file (only goes online to tell you if there's a new torrent whatsoever with more files), that lets you look through for more torrents (Magnet links are really tiny). I miss when TPB used to have a CSV of all their magnet links, their new UI is trash. I can't even find anything like the old days, pretty much TPB is a dying old relic.

Capricorn2481 2y ago

It's not abnormal for their torrents to be missing most of their direct downloads on the same page