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Facebook needs to dogfood their own stuff. I remember reading about how they use IRC internally. Very cool, but it makes you wonder why they don't use faceboo

by Splines 14y ago

Facebook needs to dogfood their own stuff. I remember reading about how they use IRC internally. Very cool, but it makes you wonder why they don't use facebook messages for everything.

MartinCron 14y ago
It seems that Facebook and IRC seem to be well suited for very different kinds of communications. There's no reason that you can't use both.
- anonymoushn 14y ago
  Facebook messaging has group conversations that can mostly be used like IRC channels. I expect the primary reason that IRC is used is that Facebook's IM service was completely unable to reliably deliver messages for most of 2011.
jmathai 14y ago
Yahoo didn't even use Yahoo! Mail which is much much much better than Facebook Messages. It was mainly because a lot of people were comfortable with Exchange and the Calendar integration. They tried Zimbra without success. At least they use Yahoo! Messenger internally.
- damncabbage 14y ago
  During my time there a lot of the Engineers used Google Search, and a local Jabber install for IM because Y! Messenger was that ad-filled and painful to use. (Maybe my experience was limited to a pocket within Yahoo!)
  - jmathai 14y ago
    Yes, by Yahoo! Messenger I just meant the protocol and servers. I used Adium, personally. I also used Google Search though I would try Yahoo! search every couple months. I don't believe the search engine is that much worse but I'd become accustomed to searching Google and understanding the results.
prodigal_erik 14y ago
If your messaging system goes down, that's a bad time to learn your team became reliant on that messaging system and is now unable to coordinate to fix it. Same reason system status pages shouldn't be hosted on the systems they support, so you don't lose them when you need them most.
- Splines 14y ago
  Alternatively, it makes outages that much more painful. Also, for stuff like "external mails go to the other folder", usability issues wouldn't go unnoticed.

by Splines 14y ago

Facebook needs to dogfood their own stuff. I remember reading about how they use IRC internally. Very cool, but it makes you wonder why they don't use facebook messages for everything.

MartinCron 14y ago

It seems that Facebook and IRC seem to be well suited for very different kinds of communications. There's no reason that you can't use both.

anonymoushn 14y ago
Facebook messaging has group conversations that can mostly be used like IRC channels. I expect the primary reason that IRC is used is that Facebook's IM service was completely unable to reliably deliver messages for most of 2011.

jmathai 14y ago

Yahoo didn't even use Yahoo! Mail which is much much much better than Facebook Messages. It was mainly because a lot of people were comfortable with Exchange and the Calendar integration. They tried Zimbra without success. At least they use Yahoo! Messenger internally.

damncabbage 14y ago
During my time there a lot of the Engineers used Google Search, and a local Jabber install for IM because Y! Messenger was that ad-filled and painful to use. (Maybe my experience was limited to a pocket within Yahoo!)
- jmathai 14y ago
  Yes, by Yahoo! Messenger I just meant the protocol and servers. I used Adium, personally. I also used Google Search though I would try Yahoo! search every couple months. I don't believe the search engine is that much worse but I'd become accustomed to searching Google and understanding the results.

prodigal_erik 14y ago

If your messaging system goes down, that's a bad time to learn your team became reliant on that messaging system and is now unable to coordinate to fix it. Same reason system status pages shouldn't be hosted on the systems they support, so you don't lose them when you need them most.

Splines 14y ago
Alternatively, it makes outages that much more painful. Also, for stuff like "external mails go to the other folder", usability issues wouldn't go unnoticed.