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Ubuntu seems to have lost the plot a bit adding things like advertisements for Ubuntu Pro. This kind of nonsense is one of the things that people hate about Wi

Ubuntu seems to have lost the plot a bit adding things like advertisements for Ubuntu Pro. This kind of nonsense is one of the things that people hate about Windows. Also adding extra garbage into CLI sessions is something that I greatly dislike because 1) it's very irritating and adds unnecessary noise and 2) it can break scripts. Some non-Canonical offenders include GNU parallel and Apple's xcode CLI tools. I don't like how vim includes political messages either, even for causes that I might otherwise support, simply because it is distracting when I want to concentrate on getting work done.

kiwijamo 2y ago
Am surprised you're being downvoted. What you've described is in a nutshell why I don't use Ubuntu -- and why I stick with vanilla Debian instead. I left Windows to get away from certain things such as irritating advertisements and the like.
sgarland 2y ago
GNU parallel asks you to acknowledge its license once, IIRC? Doesn’t seem like that big of an ask.
- theamk 2y ago
  once per user per machine, which means it's basically unusable in scripts you share ir use in CI. I avoid it for that reason. For simple cases, I use xargs; and for complex, small (stdlib-only) python scripts - they are a bit more verbose but infinitely easier to debug and improve.
- musicale 2y ago
  Yes, so does clang/clang++ on macOS. It is an anti-pattern that should not be replicated. Imagine if every command line tool made a similar demand.
zahlman 2y ago
>I don't like how vim includes political messages either Aside from the part where you can explicitly `:help uganda`, I can't fathom what you might be referring to.
- musicale 2y ago
  This exactly. I've encountered other software which urged me to help Ukraine. As much as I may actually wish to help Ukraine (or Uganda), I still dislike being urged to do so by a software tool.
musicale 2y ago
[apologies for double post - tried to move this to a better context but it didn't delete properly]

kiwijamo 2y ago

Am surprised you're being downvoted. What you've described is in a nutshell why I don't use Ubuntu -- and why I stick with vanilla Debian instead. I left Windows to get away from certain things such as irritating advertisements and the like.

sgarland 2y ago

GNU parallel asks you to acknowledge its license once, IIRC? Doesn’t seem like that big of an ask.

theamk 2y ago
once per user per machine, which means it's basically unusable in scripts you share ir use in CI. I avoid it for that reason. For simple cases, I use xargs; and for complex, small (stdlib-only) python scripts - they are a bit more verbose but infinitely easier to debug and improve.
musicale 2y ago
Yes, so does clang/clang++ on macOS. It is an anti-pattern that should not be replicated. Imagine if every command line tool made a similar demand.

zahlman 2y ago

>I don't like how vim includes political messages either Aside from the part where you can explicitly `:help uganda`, I can't fathom what you might be referring to.

musicale 2y ago
This exactly. I've encountered other software which urged me to help Ukraine. As much as I may actually wish to help Ukraine (or Uganda), I still dislike being urged to do so by a software tool.

musicale 2y ago

[apologies for double post - tried to move this to a better context but it didn't delete properly]