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The problem with torrents is they have a bad reputation since people use it to steal and redistribute other people’s content without their consent.
by briandear 2y ago
The problem with torrents is they have a bad reputation since people use it to steal and redistribute other people’s content without their consent.
- card_zero 2y agoIs there any form of torrent where you can do a full text search? That, to me, is the more important problem with torrents.
- TZubiri 2y agoBut internet archive doesn't do this? It's a key based search (url keys)
- card_zero 2y agoInternet archive allows full text search of books, newspapers, etc.. Or anyway it did, before being breached.
- TZubiri 2y agoIt does transcribe books (through imperfect OCR) so I guess that's possible. Never relied on it as I search by title and author. But anyways not the case for the wayback product which is the unique core to IA.
- card_zero 2y agoThat's not unique, not a product, and not the part I use most. Well, OK, maybe other webpage archives don't work as well, I haven't tried them, but there are others. And they're newer, so don't have such extensive historical pages. Large numbers of Wikipedia references (which relied on IA to prevent link rot) must be completely broken now.
- AlienRobot 2y agoGive it a good reputation then. What are some legal torrent trackers?
- unleaded 2y agoarchive.org to name one
- boomboomsubban 2y agoThat's debatable. Most of their torrents are for things under copyright, though any other decentralized archive would have the same problem.
- tourmalinetaco 2y agoThat’s a copyright problem. 99% of things made in the last 100 years fall under copyright.
- trod123 2y agoand a good number of things that were going to pass into copyright were further extended to 2053.
- ranger_danger 2y agoExcept when their own employees publicly tell people not to worry about copyright and just upload stuff anyway, they make it their own problem.
- ranger_danger 2y agoWhat is your definition of a legal torrent tracker? I was not aware there were even any illegal ones.
- AlienRobot 2y agoA tracker that only tracks legal torrents, e.g. free software, OCRemix content, etc.
- ranger_danger 2y agoTo me this is like saying you shouldn't use a knife because they are also used by criminals.
- John_Cena 2y agoThis kind of talk is simply modern politik-speak. I can't stand it and the people who fall for their deception. Stretch the truth to disarm the constituents
- jonhohle 2y agoIn what way? Torrents are used all over for content delivery. Battle.net uses a proprietary version of BitTorrent. It’s now owned by Microsoft. There’s many more legitimate uses as commented by many others. Criminals using tools does not make the tools criminal.
- TZubiri 2y agoIt's a matter of numbers, if tens of thousands of criminals use tech X, and it has few genuine uses, it's going to be restricted. This has precedent in illegal drug categorization, it's not just about the damage, but its ratio of noxious to helpful use.
- Kerb_ 2y agoThat precedent was and still is legally used to federally regulate marijuana harsher than fentanyl, a precedent I strongly disagree with, so you'll have to forgive me for believing that the degree to which something causes harm matters more than the amount of misuse
- TZubiri 2y agoMarihuana ruins millions of young minds.
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- thwarted 2y agoThe problem with file transfer is they have a bad reputation since people use it to [insert illegal or immoral activity here]. Then rename it from "torrent" to something else.
- TZubiri 2y agoI'm not sure what the argumentative line is here. But file uploading and downloading needs to have accountability for hosting, which p2p obscures. The bad reputation is inherent to the tech, not a random quirk.
- komali2 2y agoIt doesn't really, you can host a server off a raw IP. Downloading from example.com is just peer to peer with someone big. There's lots of hosting providers and DNS providers that are happy to host illegal-in-some-places content.
- TZubiri 2y agoIncorrect. The protocols for downloading from example.com are assymettrical client server architectures, not symmetrical decentralized peer to peer.
- tourmalinetaco 2y agoTorrents have a bad reputation due to malicious executables, I have never met someone who genuinely saw piracy as stealing, only as dangerous. In fact, stealing as a definition cannot cover digital piracy, as stealing is to take something away, and to take is to possess something physically. The correct term is copying, because you are duplicating files. And that’s not even getting into the cultural protection piracy affords in today’s DRM and license-filled world.
- master-lincoln 2y agoWhat does this have to do with torrents? If you get an executable from the internet it is widely known not to execute it if not trusted. You can get malicious executables from websites too. If this is what people think we need to work on education...
- tourmalinetaco 2y agoPiracy also is not unique to torrents, and yet that was what GP used. The average person, in my experience, can barely work a non-cellphone filesystem and actively stresses when a terminal is in front of them, especially for a brief moment. Education went out the window a decade ago.
- ycombinatrix 2y agoThe problem with websites is they have a bad reputation since people use it to steal and redistribute other people’s content without their consent.