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My kids’ school added a new weapons scanner as kids walk in the door. It’s powered by “AI.” They trust the AI quite a bit. However, the AI identifies the schoo
by prepend 2y ago
My kids’ school added a new weapons scanner as kids walk in the door. It’s powered by “AI.” They trust the AI quite a bit.
However, the AI identifies the school issued Lenovo laptops as weapons. So every kid was flagged. Rather than stopping using such a stupid tool, they just have the kids remove their laptops before going through the scanner.
I expect not smart enough people are buying “AI” products and trusting them to do the things they want them to do, but don’t work.
- notsound 2y agoWere they Evolv? https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/2/24119275/evolv-technologies-ai-gun-scanners-nyc-subway https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/2/24119275/evolv-technologie...
- mazamats 2y agoI could see a student hollowing out the laptop and hiding a weapon inside to sneak it in if thats the case
- hawski 2y agoThat is beyond silly. Unless students go naked they can have a weapon in a pocket.
- setopt 2y agoThe point was that if the laptop is taken out and doesn’t go through the scanner, but the rest of the student has to go through the scanner, then the laptop is a great hiding place. Presumably that scanner can at least beep at a pocket knife.
- hawski 2y agoOh, indeed! But if they are not otherwise checked it would be quite useless.
- sumo89 2y agodon't forget...natures pocket.
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- tightbookkeeper 2y agoAnd they trust them more than people.
- testfoobar 2y agoSometimes suboptimal tools are used to deflect litigation.
- willvarfar 2y agoDo you think it stupid to scan kids for weapons, or stupid to think that a metal detector will find weapons?
- ClassyJacket 2y agoI think it's stupid to have a country where guns are legal.
- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoGuns are legal in almost every country - I think your problem is with countries that have almost no restriction on gun ownership. e.g. Here in the UK you can legally own a properly licensed rifle or shotgun and even a handgun in some places outside of Great Britain (e.g. Northern Ireland).
- xnorswap 2y agoJust because something is technically legal, doesn't mean it's in any way common or part of UK culture to own a gun. There hasn't been a school shooting in the UK for nearly 30 years. Handguns were banned after the last school shooting and there hasn't been one since. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:School_shootings_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:School_shootings_in_t... Although that fact is sometimes forgotten by schools who copy the US in having "active shooter drills" though. Modern schools sound utterly miserable.
- Nemrod67 2y agolet us ban knives then... got a license for that mate?
- knowaveragejoe 2y agoIt would be a miracle if the US experienced mass shootings at the rate the UK experiences mass stabbings.
- ffujdefvjg 2y ago> I expect not smart enough people are buying “AI” products and trusting them to do the things they want them to do, but don’t work. People are willing to believe almost anything as long as it makes their lives a little more convenient.
- PeterStuer 2y agoOr it is accepted that said purchase will cover their ass, or even better, that refusing said purchase can be held against them in the future if things happen, even if said purchase would have made 0 difference.
- TrainedMonkey 2y agoI wonder if it's batteries, they look quite close to explosives on a variety of scanning tools. In fact, both chemically store and release energy but on extremely different timescales.
- closewith 2y agoReading this comment, it sounds to me that you live in a dystopian nightmare.
- MathMonkeyMan 2y agoMany schools are prisons, same as ever.
- wrasee 2y agoNo, they’re inverted prisons.
- ndileas 2y agoThey're designed to isolate and control everyone outside of them in order to keep the children inside safe? That is certainly an opinion.
- tonypace 2y agoAll pre-secondary schools are designed to control the movements of students. It is one of their fundamental benefits to society.
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- tippytippytango 2y agoThis is what we really need AI regulation for. The accuracy rates should be advertised in a standard format like a nutritional label. People purchasing the systems on public dollars should be required to define a good plan for false positives and negatives that handles the expected rates based on the advertised precision and recall.