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They start the article with this: > Generation Z (Gen Z) has a reputation for being challenging to work with and difficult to manage. If you do not compare th

by youoy 2y ago

They start the article with this: > Generation Z (Gen Z) has a reputation for being challenging to work with and difficult to manage. If you do not compare the results with a similar poll for when other generations where entering the market, the article reads like an arbitrary roast on Gen Z. I will not get fooled by their domain name!

onionisafruit 2y ago
Likewise it didn't even compare to other current workers. For instance it says, "6 in 10 companies fired a recent college graduate they hired this year", but but doesn't say how many companies fired other workers they hired this year or better yet what percent of workers hired this year have already been fired broken down by age and college experience.
- panarky 2y ago
  So 5 in 6 companies do not hesitate to hire recent grads.
azinman2 2y ago
I wondered the same. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the case, and it can also shift with the Overton window over time. It might be that if you took two generations ago and had a Time Machine to compared to today, the differences would be so evident that the contrast would be even more meaningful.
dmm 2y ago
> If you do not compare the results with a similar poll for when other generations where entering the market, the article reads like an arbitrary roast on Gen Z. Every generation of Grandpas claim the winters were colder and the fish were larger then when they were kids. I won't be fooled into believing climate change and fish population collapse! Maybe every generation of graduates is getting less employable.
- deepsun 2y ago
  To anyone not getting the joke -- both of the claims are objectively true with verifiable proofs.
- youoy 2y ago
  Fortunately you do not need to rely on polls for those two things, and can compare against actual measurements to reach your own conclusions :)
nabla9 2y ago
Came to say the same. To add what you said, the poll asks: " 25% state that all recent college graduate hires worked out well, while 62% mention that only some were successful. Further, 14% report that only a few or none of the hires were successful." The interpretation of result depends on what "some" means, it could be reasonably be 50%, 75%, 85%, or 95%. If it's 50%, it seems bad. If it's above 75%, that's pretty good overall,

by youoy 2y ago

onionisafruit 2y ago

Likewise it didn't even compare to other current workers. For instance it says, "6 in 10 companies fired a recent college graduate they hired this year", but but doesn't say how many companies fired other workers they hired this year or better yet what percent of workers hired this year have already been fired broken down by age and college experience.

panarky 2y ago
So 5 in 6 companies do not hesitate to hire recent grads.

azinman2 2y ago

I wondered the same. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the case, and it can also shift with the Overton window over time. It might be that if you took two generations ago and had a Time Machine to compared to today, the differences would be so evident that the contrast would be even more meaningful.

dmm 2y ago

> If you do not compare the results with a similar poll for when other generations where entering the market, the article reads like an arbitrary roast on Gen Z. Every generation of Grandpas claim the winters were colder and the fish were larger then when they were kids. I won't be fooled into believing climate change and fish population collapse! Maybe every generation of graduates is getting less employable.

deepsun 2y ago
To anyone not getting the joke -- both of the claims are objectively true with verifiable proofs.
youoy 2y ago
Fortunately you do not need to rely on polls for those two things, and can compare against actual measurements to reach your own conclusions :)

nabla9 2y ago

Came to say the same. To add what you said, the poll asks: " 25% state that all recent college graduate hires worked out well, while 62% mention that only some were successful. Further, 14% report that only a few or none of the hires were successful." The interpretation of result depends on what "some" means, it could be reasonably be 50%, 75%, 85%, or 95%. If it's 50%, it seems bad. If it's above 75%, that's pretty good overall,