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I'll agree on the Microsoft account, but the other issues are mostly nothingburgers. > Inability to remove Internet Explorer Just don't click on it, problem s

I'll agree on the Microsoft account, but the other issues are mostly nothingburgers. > Inability to remove Internet Explorer Just don't click on it, problem solved. IE is just a thin veneer in any case. The engine behind IE is an OS component that third-party programs can rely on, removing that could break those. > Edge is reinstalled every Windows update Annoying but again just don't click on it, problem solved. At least for Edge they've split out the engine into WebView2 which programs can distribute themselves. So instead of a single OS component you now can have several programs all bringing their own WebView2 version, progress! Sure some might opt for the evergreen version but devs have an option of bundling a private version. > Why the heck am I prompted each time I open an app to let it do things Better ask the program. Or do you mean UAC? In that case either turn it down, or identify which program isn't playing by the rules and install that in a separate directory. You mention games and a lot of games, especially older, tend to update files in their install directory. This is a problem if you have multiple users using the same program. It's also a security concern if a regular user can modify the installation. Easiest way to avoid the UAC prompts in those cases is just to install games in a directory that's not under "Program Files" or similar. For example I configure Steam to install all games in C:\Games. > My personal Desktop, Documents, etc were all moved to be subdirectories of "OneDrive" Pretty sure you confirmed you wanted it to do that. If you had instead declined when asked, it wouldn't have done that. Now granted, I think the dialog doesn't explain the ramifications well enough. But on all my various Windows devices I've just declined and the personal folders have stayed put. > Just right click the Window in the taskbar, select "Move", then press "Shift + UP", FIXED! Similar on Windows, usually Windows + arrow keys can bring the window back in a sensible position, alternatively right click on the window thumbnail when hovering on the taskbar, and click move. Then use arrow keys. I've been a Windows user since 3.11 days, and there are several things I don't particularly like in recent Windows releases. The above are mere quibbles in comparison IMHO. Reduction of configurability, removal of useful features without replacements, enforcing TPM rendering huge swathes of perfectly fine computers without support as they sunset the version without that requirement... just to mention a few that came to mind now.

whoitwas 2y ago
I bought the machine and OS. If I remove something, it should be gone. It's obviously bad UX and you're arguing against the consumer here. I don't even have a Microsoft account. It's possible I dismissed a dialog that nagged me and this caused my directory structure to change. Thanks for the tip on UAC prompt, I'll try rearranging things to fix it. When compared to OSX, Windows seems so anti-user. I mean this with regard to trying to sell the user everything and not respecting the user's actions.
- magicalhippo 2y ago
  > I bought the machine and OS. If I remove something, it should be gone. I worked support during the Windows 95-98 days, we had multiple cases of people "just cleaning up" and had managed to delete a significant amount of their Windows folder, to the point Windows no longer booted. Internet Explorer was considered an OS component, hence why it really shouldn't be removed. I'll grant you Edge though. > Windows seems so anti-user Windows is a product with a long history. I will agree that in recent times it has changed to the worse, and with a less clear idea of who or what it's for. With Windows Home making you jump through hoops to install non-Windows Store applications, it seems home computers will turn into fully walled gardens like Xbox for gaming and tablets for consumption and light creation. That future is certainly anti-power user, though most users just want stuff to work, they don't care about removing IE or modifying background images etc. Windows as it used to be might survive in the corporate environment, where people still need to run 30+ year old software.
  - whoitwas 2y ago
    You think people don't want to change their desktop background? Windows serves MSFT and kinda like does something that resembles an OS.
    - magicalhippo 2y ago
      Sure I do. That does not involve anything like what you said though. It involves a couple of simple clicks and you got your background of choice: Start -> Themes -> Background -> Browse -> Success. Given your description I assumed you meant modifying the existing background images, nothing else made sense.

whoitwas 2y ago

I bought the machine and OS. If I remove something, it should be gone. It's obviously bad UX and you're arguing against the consumer here. I don't even have a Microsoft account. It's possible I dismissed a dialog that nagged me and this caused my directory structure to change. Thanks for the tip on UAC prompt, I'll try rearranging things to fix it. When compared to OSX, Windows seems so anti-user. I mean this with regard to trying to sell the user everything and not respecting the user's actions.

magicalhippo 2y ago
> I bought the machine and OS. If I remove something, it should be gone. I worked support during the Windows 95-98 days, we had multiple cases of people "just cleaning up" and had managed to delete a significant amount of their Windows folder, to the point Windows no longer booted. Internet Explorer was considered an OS component, hence why it really shouldn't be removed. I'll grant you Edge though. > Windows seems so anti-user Windows is a product with a long history. I will agree that in recent times it has changed to the worse, and with a less clear idea of who or what it's for. With Windows Home making you jump through hoops to install non-Windows Store applications, it seems home computers will turn into fully walled gardens like Xbox for gaming and tablets for consumption and light creation. That future is certainly anti-power user, though most users just want stuff to work, they don't care about removing IE or modifying background images etc. Windows as it used to be might survive in the corporate environment, where people still need to run 30+ year old software.
- whoitwas 2y ago
  You think people don't want to change their desktop background? Windows serves MSFT and kinda like does something that resembles an OS.
  - magicalhippo 2y ago
    Sure I do. That does not involve anything like what you said though. It involves a couple of simple clicks and you got your background of choice: Start -> Themes -> Background -> Browse -> Success. Given your description I assumed you meant modifying the existing background images, nothing else made sense.