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Uncle Sam puts $10M bounty on Russian troll farm Rybar

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keepamovin 2y ago
What I don't get is: if people provide information on those individuals, such as their locations, appearances, activities, etc...how does that help materially further actions against them? They are probably all in Russia, ex-Soviet states.
- worstspotgain 2y ago
  Sanctioned and wanted people like to travel too. Prigozhin was flying his private jet all over Africa IIRC. Until a few years ago there were probably no repercussions at all for destroying democracy by trolling. I agree it's not much, but it's better than nothing.
  - keepamovin 2y ago
    So...it could help with sanctioning them? What information would be pertinent to this?
    - worstspotgain 2y ago
      I just meant that if they were to take a chance and travel, they could get picked up. It's not much of a deterrent against future interference, but at least it's less of a mockery of the laws to defend democracy.
  - protomolecule 2y ago
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- rasz 2y ago
  https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-military-officer-killed-hit-moscow-region-2024-10-16/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-military-office... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/06/pro-russia-ukrainian-mp-illia-kyva-shot-dead-in-moscow-suburb https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/06/pro-russia-ukr...
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  - keepamovin 2y ago
    Hmm, I see. But would they pay for stuff like that? Because payment would be confirmation of a 'deniable' operation (assuming in this case), and would break secrecy/plausible deniability. It seems that payments would have to be just as secret as operations, which would probably be difficult when dealing with random civilians who provide information. This indicates it's unlikely that rewards would be paid in such cases, I think.
    - rasz 2y ago
      So far it hasnt been an issue. Yesterday: https://www.newsweek.com/russian-pilot-found-dead-after-alleged-hammer-attack-1972098 https://www.newsweek.com/russian-pilot-found-dead-after-alle...
      - keepamovin 2y ago
        No I didn't mean it would block the operations, but that it would block the payouts. Do you have information to suggest otherwise? You haven't linked it, so I assume you're speaking on authority. Heh :) Is it? Anyway, I mean ... kind of horrible activities, but ... interesting to see these stories if they are indeed linked to solicited information - do you know for a fact they are?
        rasz 2y ago
        I know about this stuff as much as I learned from watching Munich (2005) :) GUR is going by the numbers October 4 https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/employee-russia-controlled-nuclear-plant-killed-car-bomb-say-investigators-2024-10-04/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/employee-russia-control... October 18 https://mil.in.ua/en/news/russian-army-major-killed-in-luhansk/ https://mil.in.ua/en/news/russian-army-major-killed-in-luhan...

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What I don't get is: if people provide information on those individuals, such as their locations, appearances, activities, etc...how does that help materially further actions against them? They are probably all in Russia, ex-Soviet states.

worstspotgain 2y ago
Sanctioned and wanted people like to travel too. Prigozhin was flying his private jet all over Africa IIRC. Until a few years ago there were probably no repercussions at all for destroying democracy by trolling. I agree it's not much, but it's better than nothing.
- keepamovin 2y ago
  So...it could help with sanctioning them? What information would be pertinent to this?
  - worstspotgain 2y ago
    I just meant that if they were to take a chance and travel, they could get picked up. It's not much of a deterrent against future interference, but at least it's less of a mockery of the laws to defend democracy.
- protomolecule 2y ago
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rasz 2y ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-military-officer-killed-hit-moscow-region-2024-10-16/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-military-office... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/06/pro-russia-ukrainian-mp-illia-kyva-shot-dead-in-moscow-suburb https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/06/pro-russia-ukr...
- protomolecule 2y ago
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- keepamovin 2y ago
  Hmm, I see. But would they pay for stuff like that? Because payment would be confirmation of a 'deniable' operation (assuming in this case), and would break secrecy/plausible deniability. It seems that payments would have to be just as secret as operations, which would probably be difficult when dealing with random civilians who provide information. This indicates it's unlikely that rewards would be paid in such cases, I think.
  - rasz 2y ago
    So far it hasnt been an issue. Yesterday: https://www.newsweek.com/russian-pilot-found-dead-after-alleged-hammer-attack-1972098 https://www.newsweek.com/russian-pilot-found-dead-after-alle...
    - keepamovin 2y ago
      No I didn't mean it would block the operations, but that it would block the payouts. Do you have information to suggest otherwise? You haven't linked it, so I assume you're speaking on authority. Heh :) Is it? Anyway, I mean ... kind of horrible activities, but ... interesting to see these stories if they are indeed linked to solicited information - do you know for a fact they are?
      - rasz 2y ago
        I know about this stuff as much as I learned from watching Munich (2005) :) GUR is going by the numbers October 4 https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/employee-russia-controlled-nuclear-plant-killed-car-bomb-say-investigators-2024-10-04/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/employee-russia-control... October 18 https://mil.in.ua/en/news/russian-army-major-killed-in-luhansk/ https://mil.in.ua/en/news/russian-army-major-killed-in-luhan...