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Voting machines are hacked every year at DEFCONs voting village. They're wildly insecure and no one should trust them. Frankly, any claims of manipulation of vo

Voting machines are hacked every year at DEFCONs voting village. They're wildly insecure and no one should trust them. Frankly, any claims of manipulation of voting machines are at worst plausible.

notTooFarGone 2y ago
Accounts are hacked every second. They are wildly insecure and noone should trust them. Frankly saying you are just a hacked account is at worst plausible. You logic is flawed at the core. With that train of thought you can infer everything. Why trust voting it can be manipulated.
- throwaway48476 2y ago
  Is the objective truth of what I say contingent on whether it is a hacked account? I'd say no. All voting systems can be manipulated, there's no need to make it so easy though.
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    In the days before voting machines, the dead people simply voted in alphabetical order, eg (1962) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41706655 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41706655 [my recommendation: try to build a high trust society instead of patching epicycles onto the side of a low trust one]
jazzypants 2y ago
And, yet these companies won their lawsuits, and no wide scale voter fraud was ever found. So, your point is entirely irrelevant.
- throwaway48476 2y ago
  You're confusing terms here. Voter fraud is fraud by voter. This is not what we're talking about with the voting machine susceptibility.
  - albedoa 2y ago
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    - throwaway48476 2y ago
      Here is a definition of voter fraud. https://www.browardvotes.gov/voter-information/voter-fraud https://www.browardvotes.gov/voter-information/voter-fraud
      - albedoa 2y ago
        [flagged]
- carlosjobim 2y ago
  Winning or loosing a lawsuit doesn't say much about the truth of any matter. Especially when it's a civil suit between corporations, or a criminal suit in a jurisdiction that has plea deals.
  - heylook 2y ago
    One party agreed to pay the other party close to a billion dollars to stop the lawsuit from continuing. Why did they do that?

Voting machines are hacked every year at DEFCONs voting village. They're wildly insecure and no one should trust them. Frankly, any claims of manipulation of voting machines are at worst plausible.

notTooFarGone 2y ago

Accounts are hacked every second. They are wildly insecure and noone should trust them. Frankly saying you are just a hacked account is at worst plausible. You logic is flawed at the core. With that train of thought you can infer everything. Why trust voting it can be manipulated.

throwaway48476 2y ago
Is the objective truth of what I say contingent on whether it is a hacked account? I'd say no. All voting systems can be manipulated, there's no need to make it so easy though.
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  In the days before voting machines, the dead people simply voted in alphabetical order, eg (1962) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41706655 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41706655 [my recommendation: try to build a high trust society instead of patching epicycles onto the side of a low trust one]

jazzypants 2y ago

And, yet these companies won their lawsuits, and no wide scale voter fraud was ever found. So, your point is entirely irrelevant.

throwaway48476 2y ago
You're confusing terms here. Voter fraud is fraud by voter. This is not what we're talking about with the voting machine susceptibility.
- albedoa 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - throwaway48476 2y ago
    Here is a definition of voter fraud. https://www.browardvotes.gov/voter-information/voter-fraud https://www.browardvotes.gov/voter-information/voter-fraud
    - albedoa 2y ago
      [flagged]
carlosjobim 2y ago
Winning or loosing a lawsuit doesn't say much about the truth of any matter. Especially when it's a civil suit between corporations, or a criminal suit in a jurisdiction that has plea deals.
- heylook 2y ago
  One party agreed to pay the other party close to a billion dollars to stop the lawsuit from continuing. Why did they do that?