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What evidence do you offer that there is no chance of SpaceX succeeding in spite of Elon Musk? I really don't have enough detailed knowledge about his actual co

What evidence do you offer that there is no chance of SpaceX succeeding in spite of Elon Musk? I really don't have enough detailed knowledge about his actual contributions to the various companies he runs. But given the sheer number of projects at the companies he runs I don't find it hard to believe that he is largely not responsible for the technical successes. Again, I have no evidence for it, but it would not be hard to believe. Do you have anything other than faith for that statement?

throw4950sh06 2y ago
There are plenty of very respected people confirming that Elon is extremely hands on and key to Starship development. Also SpaceX engineers who worked directly with him on Reddit - take a look, it's interesting to read.
dotnet00 2y ago
The fact that none of the other space startups prior to SpaceX, which had access to more resources, succeeded? Same goes with Tesla. You have to really stretch believability to argue that the one factor in common between two companies which broke into extremely hard to break into industries and ushered in paradigm shifts, happened to do so for no reason related to that common factor, let alone arguing that they did so in-spite of that common factor. We also have pretty detailed books on the history of SpaceX, written from employee interviews, which also indicate that Musk is fairly hands on. There's also this tweet from the designer of the Merlin rocket engine that is usually thrown around when these kinds of claims are made: https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXMasterrace/comments/15am9pl/the_most_assured_i_can_assure_you_in_internet/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXMasterrace/comments/15am9pl/t...
- sealeck 2y ago
  > Same goes with Tesla. Isn't BYD a success?
  - kortilla 2y ago
    Yes, 15 years later
    - sealeck 2y ago
      BYD was founded in 1995 and BYD Auto was founded in January 2003 (Tesla in July 2023).
      - kortilla 2y ago
        It was not a success until long after Tesla. Was not talking about founding dates
MangoCoffee 2y ago
>What evidence do you offer that there is no chance of SpaceX succeeding in spite of Elon Musk? Jeff Bezos founded Blue Origin in 2000, after revolutionizing e-commerce with Amazon. Two years later, Elon Musk launched SpaceX in 2002, which has since surged ahead of Blue Origin. Is that enough evidence?
tagami 2y ago
Thank Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX COO
tlrobinson 2y ago
> not responsible for the technical successes He's not doing the nitty gritty engineering day-to-day, but he understands enough to ask the right questions, give his teams permission to try ideas that seem crazy at first, and sometimes come up with those ideas himself (e.x. supposedly catching Starship with "chopsticks" was his idea).

throw4950sh06 2y ago

There are plenty of very respected people confirming that Elon is extremely hands on and key to Starship development. Also SpaceX engineers who worked directly with him on Reddit - take a look, it's interesting to read.

dotnet00 2y ago

The fact that none of the other space startups prior to SpaceX, which had access to more resources, succeeded? Same goes with Tesla. You have to really stretch believability to argue that the one factor in common between two companies which broke into extremely hard to break into industries and ushered in paradigm shifts, happened to do so for no reason related to that common factor, let alone arguing that they did so in-spite of that common factor. We also have pretty detailed books on the history of SpaceX, written from employee interviews, which also indicate that Musk is fairly hands on. There's also this tweet from the designer of the Merlin rocket engine that is usually thrown around when these kinds of claims are made: https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXMasterrace/comments/15am9pl/the_most_assured_i_can_assure_you_in_internet/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXMasterrace/comments/15am9pl/t...

sealeck 2y ago
> Same goes with Tesla. Isn't BYD a success?
- kortilla 2y ago
  Yes, 15 years later
  - sealeck 2y ago
    BYD was founded in 1995 and BYD Auto was founded in January 2003 (Tesla in July 2023).
    - kortilla 2y ago
      It was not a success until long after Tesla. Was not talking about founding dates

MangoCoffee 2y ago

>What evidence do you offer that there is no chance of SpaceX succeeding in spite of Elon Musk? Jeff Bezos founded Blue Origin in 2000, after revolutionizing e-commerce with Amazon. Two years later, Elon Musk launched SpaceX in 2002, which has since surged ahead of Blue Origin. Is that enough evidence?

tagami 2y ago

Thank Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX COO

tlrobinson 2y ago

> not responsible for the technical successes He's not doing the nitty gritty engineering day-to-day, but he understands enough to ask the right questions, give his teams permission to try ideas that seem crazy at first, and sometimes come up with those ideas himself (e.x. supposedly catching Starship with "chopsticks" was his idea).