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These "works for me!" comments are exhausting. Nobody believes you "rarely intervene", otherwise Tesla themselves would be promoting the heck out of the technol

These "works for me!" comments are exhausting. Nobody believes you "rarely intervene", otherwise Tesla themselves would be promoting the heck out of the technology. Bring on the videos of you in the passenger seat on FSD for any amount of time.

eric_cc 2y ago
It’s the counter-point to the “it doesn’t work for me” posts. Are you okay with those ones?
- kelnos 2y ago
  I think the problem with the "it works for me" type posts is that most people reading them think the person writing it is trying to refute what the person with the problem is saying. As in, "it works for me, so the problem must be with you, not the car". I will refrain from commenting on whether or not that's a fair assumption to make, but I think that's where the frustration comes from. I think when people make "WFM" posts, it would go a long way to acknowledge that the person who had a problem really did have a problem, even if implicitly. "That's a bummer; I've driven thousands of miles using FSD, and I've felt safe and have never had to intervene. I wonder what's different about our travel that's given us such different experiences." That kind of thing would be a lot more palatable, I think, even if you might think it's silly/tiring/whatever to have to do that every time.
omgwtfbyobbq 2y ago
I can see it. How FSD performs depends on the environment. In some places it's great, in others I take over relatively frequently, although it's usually because it's being annoying, not because it poses any risk. Being in the passenger seat is still off limits for obvious reasons.
Der_Einzige 2y ago
Thank god someone else said it. I want some of these tesla bulls to PROVE that they are actually "not intervening". I think the one's who claim they aren't doing things for hours are liars.
- eric_cc 2y ago
  > tesla bulls I’m not a Tesla financial speculator. Consider the effort it would take a normal individual to prove how well their cars FSD works for them. Now consider how somebody with no investment in the technology stands to benefit from that level of effort. That’s ridiculous. If you’re curious about the technology, go spend time with it. That’s a better way to gather data. And then you don’t have to troll forums calling people liars.
  - Der_Einzige 2y ago
    I did! I own a comma! I’ve put in hundreds of hours into using teslas FSD. I know more about it than most in this thread and I repeat, folks who claim it’s as good as they say it is are liars. Yes, even with the 12.6 firmware. Yes, even with the 13.0 firmware that’s about to come out.

eric_cc 2y ago

It’s the counter-point to the “it doesn’t work for me” posts. Are you okay with those ones?

kelnos 2y ago
I think the problem with the "it works for me" type posts is that most people reading them think the person writing it is trying to refute what the person with the problem is saying. As in, "it works for me, so the problem must be with you, not the car". I will refrain from commenting on whether or not that's a fair assumption to make, but I think that's where the frustration comes from. I think when people make "WFM" posts, it would go a long way to acknowledge that the person who had a problem really did have a problem, even if implicitly. "That's a bummer; I've driven thousands of miles using FSD, and I've felt safe and have never had to intervene. I wonder what's different about our travel that's given us such different experiences." That kind of thing would be a lot more palatable, I think, even if you might think it's silly/tiring/whatever to have to do that every time.

omgwtfbyobbq 2y ago

I can see it. How FSD performs depends on the environment. In some places it's great, in others I take over relatively frequently, although it's usually because it's being annoying, not because it poses any risk. Being in the passenger seat is still off limits for obvious reasons.

Der_Einzige 2y ago

Thank god someone else said it. I want some of these tesla bulls to PROVE that they are actually "not intervening". I think the one's who claim they aren't doing things for hours are liars.

eric_cc 2y ago
> tesla bulls I’m not a Tesla financial speculator. Consider the effort it would take a normal individual to prove how well their cars FSD works for them. Now consider how somebody with no investment in the technology stands to benefit from that level of effort. That’s ridiculous. If you’re curious about the technology, go spend time with it. That’s a better way to gather data. And then you don’t have to troll forums calling people liars.
- Der_Einzige 2y ago
  I did! I own a comma! I’ve put in hundreds of hours into using teslas FSD. I know more about it than most in this thread and I repeat, folks who claim it’s as good as they say it is are liars. Yes, even with the 12.6 firmware. Yes, even with the 13.0 firmware that’s about to come out.