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I was at a presentation on LOOPS in London given by Dan Bobrow and Mark Stefik, they were pitching it as an equivalent framework to KEE or ART as you describe.
by rjsw 2y ago
I was at a presentation on LOOPS in London given by Dan Bobrow and Mark Stefik, they were pitching it as an equivalent framework to KEE or ART as you describe. They had a good showcase application called Truckin' [1] that made good use of all the features of LOOPS.
[1] https://www.markstefik.com/?page_id=359 https://www.markstefik.com/?page_id=359
- lispm 2y agoSome more background https://larrymasinter.net/stefik-loops.pdf https://larrymasinter.net/stefik-loops.pdf and https://www.markstefik.com/?page_id=334 https://www.markstefik.com/?page_id=334 I think LOOPS was limited by only being available on Interlisp-D related systems. Common LOOPS was supposed to be portable, but I remember it only in the context of the CLOS development as a stepping stone, but not as a product or environment like LOOPS.
- rjsw 2y agoI ran Common LOOPS in AKCL on a 386 PC. It was just an object system for programming, it didn't have a Frame System or Rule Engine as well like LOOPS. My previous environment had been Franz Lisp on the Atari ST. My copy of the Franz sources was missing flavors so I wrote my own object system for it that looked a bit like New Flavors but with a frame system built in as well. My binding to GEM from Lisp made use of the object system as well and the repl was in a GEM window.
- mark_l_watson 2y agoYes!, that Truckin’ demo was awesome. I had a 1108 Xeorx Lisp Machine, and ran InterLisp-D on it the first 18 months I had it, then switched to running Common Lisp. Such a fantastic development environment!