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I am worried by this: >Due to the optimization of the platform for entry-level smartphones and the removal of unnecessary middleware layers, mobile operators w

by jan_g 14y ago

I am worried by this: >Due to the optimization of the platform for entry-level smartphones and the removal of unnecessary middleware layers, mobile operators will have the ability to offer richer experiences ... So, can we expect that mobile operators and/or manufacturers will yet again put junk on the phones?

vibrunazo 14y ago
Yup, just like they've been putting junk on the internet. That's what an open platform is like. You can put whatever junk you want in it. Hopefully, one man's junk will be another man's treasure :)
forgotusername 14y ago
Differentiation is a huge selling point for the operators, and will likely remain so as the majority of regular users don't really care about the branding (or, if anything, may feel more secure seeing the operator's logo). What counts as junk is in the eye of the beholder; the stock ROM that shipped with my Nexus One came with Facebook pre-installed, something that 18 months ago would probably have been seen as a benefit for the average techie nerd type. Thankfully I uninstalled it via Titanium Backup before they rewrote my address book. I don't see any reason to worry about this, or why it might differ from the Android experience any. If anything, Mozilla is more of a purist company and rules around what may be shipped on a co-branded handset should be a little stricter than what Android had. However since they are the new entrant, I wouldn't be surprised if they bend over backwards to whore the new platform to the carriers until such times as they have an established market segment with which to negotiate better terms. If this is the case, and the platform is a success, I would count on Mozilla to deliver a purer experience in the long term.
notatoad 14y ago
you can absolutely expect that. the best we can hope for is that their junk will be easy to rip out of the phones.
wavephorm 14y ago
I really hope Mozilla mandates that any such phones will come unlocked, so users can always wipe their phone with a stock B2G.
ozten 14y ago
I can't speak to what will actually happen, but the intended meaning of that statement is simply... By putting gecko directly on top of a linux kernel, mobile operators can deliver great performance on lower hardware specs.

by jan_g 14y ago

vibrunazo 14y ago

Yup, just like they've been putting junk on the internet. That's what an open platform is like. You can put whatever junk you want in it. Hopefully, one man's junk will be another man's treasure :)

forgotusername 14y ago

Differentiation is a huge selling point for the operators, and will likely remain so as the majority of regular users don't really care about the branding (or, if anything, may feel more secure seeing the operator's logo). What counts as junk is in the eye of the beholder; the stock ROM that shipped with my Nexus One came with Facebook pre-installed, something that 18 months ago would probably have been seen as a benefit for the average techie nerd type. Thankfully I uninstalled it via Titanium Backup before they rewrote my address book. I don't see any reason to worry about this, or why it might differ from the Android experience any. If anything, Mozilla is more of a purist company and rules around what may be shipped on a co-branded handset should be a little stricter than what Android had. However since they are the new entrant, I wouldn't be surprised if they bend over backwards to whore the new platform to the carriers until such times as they have an established market segment with which to negotiate better terms. If this is the case, and the platform is a success, I would count on Mozilla to deliver a purer experience in the long term.

notatoad 14y ago

you can absolutely expect that. the best we can hope for is that their junk will be easy to rip out of the phones.

wavephorm 14y ago

I really hope Mozilla mandates that any such phones will come unlocked, so users can always wipe their phone with a stock B2G.

ozten 14y ago

I can't speak to what will actually happen, but the intended meaning of that statement is simply... By putting gecko directly on top of a linux kernel, mobile operators can deliver great performance on lower hardware specs.