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You know you have a good company when people sneak in to do more work after they're not being paid anymore

relix 14y ago
You know you have a bad company when you fire people who would sneak in to do more work after they're not being paid anymore
- bob_kelso 14y ago
  But he wasn't fired. His project was cancelled so Apple offered him to work on something else and he declined. I don't get why the manager would want to throw him out though. A capable employee working for free sounds like every managers dream.
  - bryanlarsen 14y ago
    A facilities manager was the one who wanted to throw him out. They've got a very different mindset. Software & hardware managers actively aided his cause.
  - danielweber 14y ago
    If management knows he's working for free they probably are vulnerable to all kinds of labor problems.
threepointone 14y ago
And this is during the non-Jobs years!
kabdib 14y ago
Not necessarily. After some layoffs at Atari, there was a guy who daily got past the receptionist with an old badge (not electronic) and hung out in our building's machine room. He was logged onto a Vax as some innocuous account. There was a lot of turmoil, so he got away with it for a while. When we discovered him (I was flushing old accounts, and found this guy in our Vax room who shouldn't have been there) we ejected him, and he had the chutzpah to ask for a tape of his directories.
- INTPenis 14y ago
  To be fair, a computer the caliber of VAX wasn't something you just pulled out of your pocket and complained about in those days. I was only born in 1985 but I remember craving the computer so bad I'd even endure my bachelor fathers filthy apartment for hours just to play in DOS.
j_baker 14y ago
It's not clear that he wasn't getting paid: On the last day of the canceled project, Avitzur’s manager called him into her office to say goodbye. He hadn’t completed the length of his contract, but the company would pay it in full anyway. “Just submit your final invoice for what’s left,” she told him. That’s when it clicked: If Avitzur didn’t submit the invoice, his contract stayed in the system. And if his contract stayed in the system, his ID badge would keep getting him in the front door. The article doesn't specify, but I would imagine that he submitted his invoice once his badge was deactivated.
- SatvikBeri 14y ago
  In effect he was working for free, since he could have gotten paid with or without continuing to work for Apple.
rsanchez1 14y ago
Good company, or good cult of personality.

relix 14y ago

You know you have a bad company when you fire people who would sneak in to do more work after they're not being paid anymore

bob_kelso 14y ago
But he wasn't fired. His project was cancelled so Apple offered him to work on something else and he declined. I don't get why the manager would want to throw him out though. A capable employee working for free sounds like every managers dream.
- bryanlarsen 14y ago
  A facilities manager was the one who wanted to throw him out. They've got a very different mindset. Software & hardware managers actively aided his cause.
- danielweber 14y ago
  If management knows he's working for free they probably are vulnerable to all kinds of labor problems.

threepointone 14y ago

And this is during the non-Jobs years!

kabdib 14y ago

Not necessarily. After some layoffs at Atari, there was a guy who daily got past the receptionist with an old badge (not electronic) and hung out in our building's machine room. He was logged onto a Vax as some innocuous account. There was a lot of turmoil, so he got away with it for a while. When we discovered him (I was flushing old accounts, and found this guy in our Vax room who shouldn't have been there) we ejected him, and he had the chutzpah to ask for a tape of his directories.

INTPenis 14y ago
To be fair, a computer the caliber of VAX wasn't something you just pulled out of your pocket and complained about in those days. I was only born in 1985 but I remember craving the computer so bad I'd even endure my bachelor fathers filthy apartment for hours just to play in DOS.

j_baker 14y ago

It's not clear that he wasn't getting paid: On the last day of the canceled project, Avitzur’s manager called him into her office to say goodbye. He hadn’t completed the length of his contract, but the company would pay it in full anyway. “Just submit your final invoice for what’s left,” she told him. That’s when it clicked: If Avitzur didn’t submit the invoice, his contract stayed in the system. And if his contract stayed in the system, his ID badge would keep getting him in the front door. The article doesn't specify, but I would imagine that he submitted his invoice once his badge was deactivated.

SatvikBeri 14y ago
In effect he was working for free, since he could have gotten paid with or without continuing to work for Apple.

rsanchez1 14y ago

Good company, or good cult of personality.