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Omitting that the pedestrian was on a freeway meaningfully mis-represents the situation.

Retric 2y ago
People walking on freeways may be rare from the perspective of an individual driver but not a self driving system operating on millions of vehicles.
- rKarpinski 2y ago
  What does that have to do with the original article's misleading title?
  - Retric 2y ago
    I don’t think it’s misleading. It’s a tile not some hundred word description of what exactly happened. Calling them motorists would definitely be misleading by comparison. Using the simple “fatal crash” of the linked title implies the other people might in be responsible which is misleading. Using accident but saying Tesla was at fault could open them up to liability and therefore isn’t an option.
    - rKarpinski 2y ago
      > I don’t think it’s misleading. It’s a tile not some hundred word description of what exactly happened. "Pedestrian killed on freeway" instead of "pedestrian killed" doesn't take 100 words and doesn't give the impression Tesla's are mowing people down on crosswalks (although that's a feature to get clicks, not a bug).
      - Retric 2y ago
        Without context that implies the pedestrians shouldn’t have been on the freeway. It’s not an issue for Tesla, but it does imply bad things about the victims.
        rKarpinski 2y ago
        A title of "U.S. to probe Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system after pedestrian killed on freeway" would in no way imply bad things about the pedestrian who was killed.
        Retric 2y ago
        It was my first assumption when I was read pedestrian on freeway in someone’s comment without context. Possibly due to Uber self driving fatality. Stranded motorists who exit their vehicle, construction workers, first responders, tow truck drivers, etc are the most common victims but that’s not the association I had.
Arn_Thor 2y ago
Why? I would hope we all expect pedestrian detection (and object detection in general) to be just as good on a freeway as on a city street? It seems the Tesla barreled full-speed into an accident ahead of it. I would call it insane but that would be anthropomorphizing it.
nkrisc 2y ago
No, you’re not allowed to hit pedestrians on the freeway either. There are many reasons why a pedestrian might be on the freeway. It’s not common but I see it at least once a month and I drive extra carefully when I do, moving over if I can and slowing down.

People walking on freeways may be rare from the perspective of an individual driver but not a self driving system operating on millions of vehicles.

rKarpinski 2y ago
What does that have to do with the original article's misleading title?
- Retric 2y ago
  I don’t think it’s misleading. It’s a tile not some hundred word description of what exactly happened. Calling them motorists would definitely be misleading by comparison. Using the simple “fatal crash” of the linked title implies the other people might in be responsible which is misleading. Using accident but saying Tesla was at fault could open them up to liability and therefore isn’t an option.
  - rKarpinski 2y ago
    > I don’t think it’s misleading. It’s a tile not some hundred word description of what exactly happened. "Pedestrian killed on freeway" instead of "pedestrian killed" doesn't take 100 words and doesn't give the impression Tesla's are mowing people down on crosswalks (although that's a feature to get clicks, not a bug).
    - Retric 2y ago
      Without context that implies the pedestrians shouldn’t have been on the freeway. It’s not an issue for Tesla, but it does imply bad things about the victims.
      - rKarpinski 2y ago
        A title of "U.S. to probe Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system after pedestrian killed on freeway" would in no way imply bad things about the pedestrian who was killed.
        Retric 2y ago
        It was my first assumption when I was read pedestrian on freeway in someone’s comment without context. Possibly due to Uber self driving fatality. Stranded motorists who exit their vehicle, construction workers, first responders, tow truck drivers, etc are the most common victims but that’s not the association I had.

Arn_Thor 2y ago

Why? I would hope we all expect pedestrian detection (and object detection in general) to be just as good on a freeway as on a city street? It seems the Tesla barreled full-speed into an accident ahead of it. I would call it insane but that would be anthropomorphizing it.

nkrisc 2y ago

No, you’re not allowed to hit pedestrians on the freeway either. There are many reasons why a pedestrian might be on the freeway. It’s not common but I see it at least once a month and I drive extra carefully when I do, moving over if I can and slowing down.