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For the last 10 years the default definition of "phone" (unmodified) has been "cell phone". These days if you want to refer to a landline you call it that. If y
by lolinder 2y ago
For the last 10 years the default definition of "phone" (unmodified) has been "cell phone". These days if you want to refer to a landline you call it that. If you want to refer to a WiFi phone you call it that.
The primary function of a "phone" in the modern sense is to allow people to reach you (by means of SMS or voice) wherever you happen to be at the time. Something that doesn't meet that need isn't an unqualified "phone".
- rkagerer 2y agoI find it interesting you mentioned SMS first, before voice. When I say "phone" I primarily think of a tool for phone calls. I'm probably older than you.
- doubleg72 2y agoOr it's just alphabetical
- ratrocket 2y ago> If you want to refer to a WiFi phone you call it that. To its credit, the thing under discussion is literally called "WiPhone", which sounds to me like a direct play on "WiFi phone".
- TrapLord_Rhodo 2y ago>by means of SMS It's can't make calls but it does send SMS via a low-frequency radio, so you can send text messages in the middle of a jungle. Technically your cellular phone can't do that unless it's connected to starlink.
- sophacles 2y agoHow about we define "phone" as a voice capable device that is reachable by its assigned phone number. It's the unifying factor for dozens of different technologies that have been called "phone" for decades. Anything else seems absurd.
- lolinder 2y agoUnfortunately you can't actually just pick a definition for a word based on what makes sense to you. Definitions are decided collectively by all speakers of the language, and the definition I gave is actually a fairly conservative one. Plenty of people actually use "phone" to mean not only "cell phone" but specifically a "smart phone" and feel the need to qualify it if they mean a "dumb phone". Like it or not, that's the way the word is going.
- sophacles 2y agoSome people do. Others don't. Why would you get to decide which usage is blessed? Like plenty of people talk about phone calls that only take place on zoom or meets without ever using a smartphone or dumb phone (but the call is joinable via an assigned phone number)
- lolinder 2y agoI don't get to decide and I'm not calling it blessed, but it's the one that is becoming dominant, like it or not.
- pcdoodle 2y agoCan I use your phone? They are asking to make a phone call, not play angry birds. Phones make phone calls. End of story.
- lolinder 2y agoIn most settings that question includes an implicit "cell"! They're not asking if they can go home with you and use your landline, they're assuming you have a phone in your pocket with service. A landline is a type of phone in the same way that a panda is a type of bear. Technically it's true, but if you say you went to see the bears at the zoo it's your own fault that people aren't picturing something with black and white splotches.